Originally Posted by 1P
(Post 31585960)
NCE is just a horrible airport all round, so why be surprised at this lack?
NCE is unusual in that it's primarily a leisure destination yet is high yield. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 31588695)
NCE is unusual in that it's primarily a leisure destination yet is high yield. |
Originally Posted by ajeleonard
(Post 31585711)
BA pay for it at most other outstations, anything specific about NCE as to why they won't there? Is it particularly expensive?
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Has the tram service started yet from the airport?
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I would how much it actually costs in some airports.
The only airport that I know of that publicly states their fast track security charge is Helsinki which is €2 per person. |
Originally Posted by richardwft
(Post 31588814)
Has the tram service started yet from the airport?
Line 3 (up the Plaine du Var to and past the stadium) will be operational in 2020. |
A good comparison is VCE, fast track and great lounge, no bus to the aircraft, a far better experience.
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Originally Posted by gms
(Post 31588748)
Are you sure about this? If we are thinking about mainland Europe I would say it's probably actually a minority of outstations where BA provides Fasttrack access and in some cases only for CE passengers, not status passengers. However, I appreciate that your view will be skewed based on the locations you travel to most frequently.
It's a bit annoying, but personally I mind it much less than BA not paying for lounge access where it exists. |
Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 31588849)
Yes for about a year. Right now it ends at avenue Jean Medecin (near place Massena), the full route, all the way to the harbour will be in service from 14 December.
Line 3 (up the Plaine du Var to and past the stadium) will be operational in 2020. |
Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 31588726)
Agree with everything else in your post but at the risk of going ot, despite popular belief, Nice airport traffic is actually 50-50 business and leisure. It’s one of the leading areas for research, high tech (including the historical hq for ibm’s European research, and of course Amadeus) and is also one of Europe’s main conference and trade destinations. [\patriotic hat off... ;) ]
That being said, it is true that Cannes (and to some extent Nice) is a leading venue for conferences and seminars. T2 (AF, Easyjet, DL, EK, SU) has become a very nice terminal, but I find T1 not very pleasant. |
Originally Posted by richardwft
(Post 31588854)
A good comparison is VCE, fast track and great lounge, no bus to the aircraft, a far better experience.
:confused: |
Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 31588988)
I am really surprised by your 50-50 statistics. Do you have a source? Does it apply to all pax at NCE or just BA?
That being said, it is true that Cannes (and to some extent Nice) is a leading venue for conferences and seminars. Nice is actually a significantly larger venue for conferences than Cannes, the second after Paris in France. Cannes has a few iconic ones like the MIPIM in March, but some of Nice's regular annual congresses notably in the health field (medicine, pharmacy, etc) actually add up to more. Monaco also has a number of significant congresses. PS I don't think we should get too OT though! |
Originally Posted by richardwft
(Post 31588854)
A good comparison is VCE, fast track and great lounge, no bus to the aircraft, a far better experience.
I actually absolutely love VCE airport, so certainly don't expect me to criticise it. Like you, I really love the lounge with its open terrace (but that's very unusual in Europe, though there are a few similar examples in Greece/Cyprus), which is a wonderful place to sip a spritz, and obviously heading to the city with vaporetti is magical. I also enjoy the "DIY connections" which are fun. That said, getting to the city be it by public or private transport takes at least three times longer. It is also massively more expensive. Public transport to Venice costs €15 whilst in Nice, both bus and tramway will cost you €1 per trip if you buy a carnet of 10 (available at the bus kiosk just outside of arrivals) or €1.50 if you just buy a single on the spot. Typical uber to Nice city centre will cost you between €10 and 18 and take 10-15 minutes, whilst any private transport in Venice will leave a serious dent to your bank account. Nice also has two different types of fast track (again, it's only that BA choose not to pay for it but that's not the airport fault), and unlike VCE, you get lounges in every area, which means that you don't have to double guess how long immigration will take and cut your stay short as is the case in Venice where the lounges are only in the Schengen area. |
I’d like Summer BA flights to TLN with fast track, but it’ll probably not happen.
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 31589078)
I'm not sure why VCE would be a particularly apt comparison apart from the similar airport codes, but more importantly, your summary above is actually incorrect. There are busses at VCE too, and in fact a higher proportion of BA flights get them, especially in the summer when several of the BA flights from LCY/LHR/LGW have overlapping times (LCY/LGW in the morning, LGW/LHR in the evening). NCE has a lot more BA rotations and typically the same absolute number of them using bus gates (either 1 or 2 a day in peak summer mostly).
I actually absolutely love VCE airport, so certainly don't expect me to criticise it. Like you, I really love the lounge with its open terrace (but that's very unusual in Europe, though there are a few similar examples in Greece/Cyprus), which is a wonderful place to sip a spritz, and obviously heading to the city with vaporetti is magical. I also enjoy the "DIY connections" which are fun. That said, getting to the city be it by public or private transport takes at least three times longer. It is also massively more expensive. Public transport to Venice costs €15 whilst in Nice, both bus and tramway will cost you €1 per trip if you buy a carnet of 10 (available at the bus kiosk just outside of arrivals) or €1.50 if you just buy a single on the spot. Typical uber to Nice city centre will cost you between €10 and 18 and take 10-15 minutes, whilst any private transport in Venice will leave a serious dent to your bank account. Nice also has two different types of fast track (again, it's only that BA choose not to pay for it but that's not the airport fault), and unlike VCE, you get lounges in every area, which means that you don't have to double guess how long immigration will take and cut your stay short as is the case in Venice where the lounges are only in the Schengen area. |
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