BA Pilot Strike - What does Balpa want?
Jul 23, 2019, 4:30 pm
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BA Pilot Strike - What does Balpa want?
BA says its offering 11.5% increase over three years. Seems fair/generous to me. A guaranteed salary increase of that much over three years is far from the norm for most of the public.
But what does Balpa want? Do they have a figure in mind or just using dramatics to milk as much as they can?
P.S. This is how you do "no deal" negotiations.
But what does Balpa want? Do they have a figure in mind or just using dramatics to milk as much as they can?
P.S. This is how you do "no deal" negotiations.
Jul 23, 2019, 4:41 pm
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BA says its offering 11.5% increase over three years. Seems fair/generous to me. A guaranteed salary increase of that much over three years is far from the norm for most of the public.
But what does Balpa want? Do they have a figure in mind or just using dramatics to milk as much as they can?
P.S. This is how you do "no deal" negotiations.
But what does Balpa want? Do they have a figure in mind or just using dramatics to milk as much as they can?
P.S. This is how you do "no deal" negotiations.
Well when they see the airline having crazy profits yet still acting like it is about to go bankrupt tomorrow, then obviously staff + passengers can get a little annoyed.
Jul 23, 2019, 4:42 pm
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restoration of the pay cuts staff (not just pilots) took after 9/11 and the financial crash that BA said would be restored when things were better for the company financially.
Jul 23, 2019, 4:51 pm
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Jul 23, 2019, 5:06 pm
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https://news.klm.com/record-profit-s...for-klm-staff/
https://news.delta.com/following-13-...olunteer-hours
BA currently has no profit share scheme in place. Nada.
https://news.delta.com/following-13-...olunteer-hours
BA currently has no profit share scheme in place. Nada.
Jul 23, 2019, 10:14 pm
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Profit sharing is viable, and more likely IMHO.
Jul 23, 2019, 10:29 pm
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Post 2008, staff took pay cuts with the promise that the cuts would be reversed when the airline was in better shape financially. To date, the cuts have not been reversed,so that staff are not back to where they were in 2008. Basically they want to be "made whole" as was promised.
Jul 23, 2019, 11:27 pm
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It all feels so familiar for BA. Just as they start committing cash investment on the passenger experience other pressures come to the boil.
The funding of the 78X, the 350-1000, the 77X and then the large 777replacment order plus the roll our of the new CWS will need a lot of profit to support the borrowing needed and of course part fund that capital investment from profit cash.
Wouldn't at all be surprised if the capex budget gets squeezed and the time lines for the customer investment extended.
I don't begrudge the BA staff a decent living. But since 2008 the customer has equalled suffered cut backs in service quality and product
The funding of the 78X, the 350-1000, the 77X and then the large 777replacment order plus the roll our of the new CWS will need a lot of profit to support the borrowing needed and of course part fund that capital investment from profit cash.
Wouldn't at all be surprised if the capex budget gets squeezed and the time lines for the customer investment extended.
I don't begrudge the BA staff a decent living. But since 2008 the customer has equalled suffered cut backs in service quality and product
Jul 24, 2019, 12:28 am
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To the lay public 11.5 % over 3 years seems huge
you could put parallels with the NHS which has had years of pay freezes and are suddenly excited by a 2.5 % pay rise
Dont BA pilots earn a lot more than other british airlines?
I do agree though, BA have been tight with staff and passengers for a number if years, hence the profit
What are cabin crew asking for?
you could put parallels with the NHS which has had years of pay freezes and are suddenly excited by a 2.5 % pay rise
Dont BA pilots earn a lot more than other british airlines?
I do agree though, BA have been tight with staff and passengers for a number if years, hence the profit
What are cabin crew asking for?
Jul 24, 2019, 1:13 am
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I thought money was just the headline grabbing issue? My understanding was there were concerns over reduced time down route potentially causing safety issues and also a move to lower grade hotels amongst other things.