Oct 16, 2019, 2:28 am
Last edit by: Pilot37
Boeing 777 Club World seat maps
777-300ER Four class configuration: 8F 76J 40W 130M (77H AeroLopa)
777-200ER Three class configuration: 48J 40W 184M (77L AeroLopa)
777-200ER Four class configuration: 8F 49J 40W 138M (77M AeroLopa)
Boeing 777 Club World Suite embodiment programme
777-200ER
☻ Three class configuration: 48J 40W 184M (13/13, 100% complete)
☻ Four class configuration: 8F 49J 40W 138M (15/18, 83% complete)
777-300ER
☻ Four class configuration: 8F 76J 40W 130M (13/16, 81% complete)
Completed (re-entry to service date):
☻ G-RAES, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 October 2019
☻ G-VIIL, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 January 2020
☻ G-VIIK, Boeing 777-200ER, 02 March 2020
☻ G-VIIM, Boeing 777-200ER, 20 March 2020
☻ G-VIIN, Boeing 777-200ER, 14 April 2020
☻ G-VIIB, Boeing 777-200ER, 25 April 2020
☻ G-VIIF, Boeing 777-200ER, 15 June 2020
☻ G-VIIS, Boeing 777-200ER, 12 July 2020
☻ G-VIIC, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 September 2020
☻ G-STBM, Boeing 777-300ER, 01 October 2020*
☻ G-YMMI, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 October 2020
☻ G-VIIG, Boeing 777-200ER, 28 October 2020
☻ G-STBN, Boeing 777-300ER, 05 November 2020*
☻ G-STBO, Boeing 777-300ER, 06 January 2021*
☻ G-STBP, Boeing 777-300ER, 08 January 2021*
☻ G-VIID, Boeing 777-200ER, 28 February 2021
☻ G-YMMN, Boeing 777-200ER, 04 March 2021
☻ G-YMMO, Boeing 777-200ER, 21 April 2021
☻ G-VIIE, Boeing 777-200ER, 29 April 2021
☻ G-STBD, Boeing 777-300ER, 20 July 2021
☻ G-YMMP, Boeing 777-200ER 23 July 2021
☻ G-VIIH, Boeing 777-200ER, 16 August 2021
☻ G-YMMJ, Boeing 777-200ER, 03 September 2021
☻ G-YMMH, Boeing 777-200ER, 05 October 2021
☻ G-VIIJ, Boeing 777-200ER, 29 October 2021
☻ G-VIIA, Boeing 777-200ER, 14 December 2021
☻ G-YMMG, Boeing 777-200ER, 07 January 2022
☻ G-YMML, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 January 2022
☻ G-YMMK, Boeing 777-200ER, 24 February 2022
☻ G-STBH, Boeing 777-300ER, 31 March 2022
☻ G-YMMT, Boeing 777-200ER, 24 May 2022
☻ G-STBG, Boeing 777-300ER, 14 June 2022
☻ G-STBK, Boeing 777-300ER, 21 August 2022
☻ G-STBL, Boeing 777-300ER, 09 October 2022
☻ G-STBJ, Boeing 777-300ER, 27 November 2022
☻ G-YMMS, Boeing 777-200ER, 22 February 2023
☻ G-YMMR, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 March 2023
☻ G-YMMU, Boeing 777-200ER, 05 May 2023
☻ G-STBA, Boeing 777-300ER, 24 June 2023
☻ G-STBE, Boeing 777-300ER, 22 September 2023
☻ G-STBF, Boeing 777-300ER, 11 December 2023
In Progress: (the below aircraft are in CWL, and believed / hoped to be undergoing CS refits )
☻ G-STBI, Boeing 777-300ER, Arrived in CWL on April 18th
Planned (subject to change):
☻ G-STBB, Boeing 777-300ER, TBC
☻ G-STBC, Boeing 777-300ER, TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
☻ G-VIIV, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
☻ G-VIIW, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
☻ G-VIIY, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
Twelve 3-class aircraft based at LGW are not included in this list. See details here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with Club Suite installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service
777-300ER Four class configuration: 8F 76J 40W 130M (77H AeroLopa)
777-200ER Three class configuration: 48J 40W 184M (77L AeroLopa)
777-200ER Four class configuration: 8F 49J 40W 138M (77M AeroLopa)
Boeing 777 Club World Suite embodiment programme
777-200ER
☻ Three class configuration: 48J 40W 184M (13/13, 100% complete)
☻ Four class configuration: 8F 49J 40W 138M (15/18, 83% complete)
777-300ER
☻ Four class configuration: 8F 76J 40W 130M (13/16, 81% complete)
Completed (re-entry to service date):
☻ G-RAES, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 October 2019
☻ G-VIIL, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 January 2020
☻ G-VIIK, Boeing 777-200ER, 02 March 2020
☻ G-VIIM, Boeing 777-200ER, 20 March 2020
☻ G-VIIN, Boeing 777-200ER, 14 April 2020
☻ G-VIIB, Boeing 777-200ER, 25 April 2020
☻ G-VIIF, Boeing 777-200ER, 15 June 2020
☻ G-VIIS, Boeing 777-200ER, 12 July 2020
☻ G-VIIC, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 September 2020
☻ G-STBM, Boeing 777-300ER, 01 October 2020*
☻ G-YMMI, Boeing 777-200ER, 08 October 2020
☻ G-VIIG, Boeing 777-200ER, 28 October 2020
☻ G-STBN, Boeing 777-300ER, 05 November 2020*
☻ G-STBO, Boeing 777-300ER, 06 January 2021*
☻ G-STBP, Boeing 777-300ER, 08 January 2021*
☻ G-VIID, Boeing 777-200ER, 28 February 2021
☻ G-YMMN, Boeing 777-200ER, 04 March 2021
☻ G-YMMO, Boeing 777-200ER, 21 April 2021
☻ G-VIIE, Boeing 777-200ER, 29 April 2021
☻ G-STBD, Boeing 777-300ER, 20 July 2021
☻ G-YMMP, Boeing 777-200ER 23 July 2021
☻ G-VIIH, Boeing 777-200ER, 16 August 2021
☻ G-YMMJ, Boeing 777-200ER, 03 September 2021
☻ G-YMMH, Boeing 777-200ER, 05 October 2021
☻ G-VIIJ, Boeing 777-200ER, 29 October 2021
☻ G-VIIA, Boeing 777-200ER, 14 December 2021
☻ G-YMMG, Boeing 777-200ER, 07 January 2022
☻ G-YMML, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 January 2022
☻ G-YMMK, Boeing 777-200ER, 24 February 2022
☻ G-STBH, Boeing 777-300ER, 31 March 2022
☻ G-YMMT, Boeing 777-200ER, 24 May 2022
☻ G-STBG, Boeing 777-300ER, 14 June 2022
☻ G-STBK, Boeing 777-300ER, 21 August 2022
☻ G-STBL, Boeing 777-300ER, 09 October 2022
☻ G-STBJ, Boeing 777-300ER, 27 November 2022
☻ G-YMMS, Boeing 777-200ER, 22 February 2023
☻ G-YMMR, Boeing 777-200ER, 31 March 2023
☻ G-YMMU, Boeing 777-200ER, 05 May 2023
☻ G-STBA, Boeing 777-300ER, 24 June 2023
☻ G-STBE, Boeing 777-300ER, 22 September 2023
☻ G-STBF, Boeing 777-300ER, 11 December 2023
In Progress: (the below aircraft are in CWL, and believed / hoped to be undergoing CS refits )
☻ G-STBI, Boeing 777-300ER, Arrived in CWL on April 18th
Planned (subject to change):
☻ G-STBB, Boeing 777-300ER, TBC
☻ G-STBC, Boeing 777-300ER, TBC (originally planned for July 2021)
☻ G-VIIV, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
☻ G-VIIW, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
☻ G-VIIY, Boeing 777-200ER, TBC (aircraft was refurbished to LGW 77R config in 2019)
Twelve 3-class aircraft based at LGW are not included in this list. See details here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
*G-STBM/N/O/P were delivered new with Club Suite installed; date reflects entry into service rather than re-entry into service
Boeing 777 Club Suites: route info and updates
Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 am
#1276
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: BA Blue, EI Silver, Honours Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,209
There might not be a single replacement as BA will have all three of the A350, 787 and 777x in the fleet.
The A351 and 781 have broadly similar arrangements to the 3 and 4 class 772s, respectively, so more of both seems likely. BA might choose to see what RR, Airbus and Boeing offer in terms of updates.
Some of this might depend on compensation payable due to 777x delays.
The A351 and 781 have broadly similar arrangements to the 3 and 4 class 772s, respectively, so more of both seems likely. BA might choose to see what RR, Airbus and Boeing offer in terms of updates.
Some of this might depend on compensation payable due to 777x delays.
Sep 24, 2022, 2:09 pm
#1277
Join Date: Feb 2019
Programs: BA Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 15
Couple of hopefully interesting data points, from a regular SFO-LHR traveller:
After waiting until summer 2022 for CS-equipped 777-300 aircraft, all SFO flights are now 787 / A380 and back to CW. No clarity whether / when we go back to CS.
My first CS experience was pretty unimpressive: outbound flight the door would not close, inbound the seat started obeying phantom commands - e.g. when I was asleep it would, uncommanded, move back to an upright position, and when seated, would randomly move or recline. This happened about twice every hour and obviously was unsatisfactory. Apologies from cabin crew but none of their in-flight fixes worked.
That said, going back to old equipment feels like a significant downgrade. A380 First stills feels more spacious, but very tired and poor privacy, even in 1A. CW is... well, you know. BA really needs to crack on with the conversions and make up their minds what they are doing with the 787 / A380 aircraft, because operating a mixed long-haul experience for much longer is going to really dilute the benefit of the CS investment. But they also need to do a better job on quality control and maintenance of the new seating.
EDIT: Just remembered that last Thursday (Sept 22) SFO-LHR was on G-STBB, one of the last 9 non-upgraded B77W aircraft. Kind of annoying after having the upgraded versions during the summer - hard to discern BA's strategy here.
After waiting until summer 2022 for CS-equipped 777-300 aircraft, all SFO flights are now 787 / A380 and back to CW. No clarity whether / when we go back to CS.
My first CS experience was pretty unimpressive: outbound flight the door would not close, inbound the seat started obeying phantom commands - e.g. when I was asleep it would, uncommanded, move back to an upright position, and when seated, would randomly move or recline. This happened about twice every hour and obviously was unsatisfactory. Apologies from cabin crew but none of their in-flight fixes worked.
That said, going back to old equipment feels like a significant downgrade. A380 First stills feels more spacious, but very tired and poor privacy, even in 1A. CW is... well, you know. BA really needs to crack on with the conversions and make up their minds what they are doing with the 787 / A380 aircraft, because operating a mixed long-haul experience for much longer is going to really dilute the benefit of the CS investment. But they also need to do a better job on quality control and maintenance of the new seating.
EDIT: Just remembered that last Thursday (Sept 22) SFO-LHR was on G-STBB, one of the last 9 non-upgraded B77W aircraft. Kind of annoying after having the upgraded versions during the summer - hard to discern BA's strategy here.
Last edited by jfc100; Sep 25, 2022 at 6:06 am Reason: Added information
Sep 24, 2022, 3:26 pm
#1278
Join Date: Feb 2020
Programs: British Airways Executive Club Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Amb
Posts: 1,774
Yes, the doors seem very fragile and vulnerable to breaking on the Club Suite, which is pretty unimpressive considering it’s relative youth. On a recent CS flight to LAX, we also noticed that one of the folding covers for the side compartments in the suite (not sure what these are called) had been removed from both our seats too.
Sep 24, 2022, 4:52 pm
#1279
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 737
Couple of hopefully interesting data points, from a regular SFO-LHR traveller:
After waiting until summer 2022 for CS-equipped 777-300 aircraft, all SFO flights are now 787 / A380 and back to CW. No clarity whether / when we go back to CS.
My first CS experience was pretty unimpressive: outbound flight the door would not close, inbound the seat started obeying phantom commands - e.g. when I was asleep it would, uncommanded, move back to an upright position, and when seated, would randomly move or recline. This happened about twice every hour and obviously was unsatisfactory. Apologies from cabin crew but none of their in-flight fixes worked.
That said, going back to old equipment feels like a significant downgrade. A380 First stills feels more spacious, but very tired and poor privacy, even in 1A. CW is... well, you know. BA really needs to crack on with the conversions and make up their minds what they are doing with the 787 / A380 aircraft, because operating a mixed long-haul experience for much longer is going to really dilute the benefit of the CS investment. But they also need to do a better job on quality control and maintenance of the new seating.
After waiting until summer 2022 for CS-equipped 777-300 aircraft, all SFO flights are now 787 / A380 and back to CW. No clarity whether / when we go back to CS.
My first CS experience was pretty unimpressive: outbound flight the door would not close, inbound the seat started obeying phantom commands - e.g. when I was asleep it would, uncommanded, move back to an upright position, and when seated, would randomly move or recline. This happened about twice every hour and obviously was unsatisfactory. Apologies from cabin crew but none of their in-flight fixes worked.
That said, going back to old equipment feels like a significant downgrade. A380 First stills feels more spacious, but very tired and poor privacy, even in 1A. CW is... well, you know. BA really needs to crack on with the conversions and make up their minds what they are doing with the 787 / A380 aircraft, because operating a mixed long-haul experience for much longer is going to really dilute the benefit of the CS investment. But they also need to do a better job on quality control and maintenance of the new seating.
Sep 24, 2022, 8:03 pm
#1280
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: Executive Club
Posts: 1,115
As a regular on an LGW 777 for a leisure route (PUJ), almost everyone is travelling in a pair, and many many families in J. I just can't see that Club Suites would work for couples or families, it's very hard to communicate with anyone else and it would be hell with a young child if for example you booked a centre pair and had to constantly run around the cabin to get to the child on the other side.
Sep 25, 2022, 11:26 am
#1281
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,575
Likewise, my BA181 LHR-EWR for 17 Sep has been changed to the 77J variant as well. Seems unlucky as the majority of the 777-200s have been upgraded, and I am pretty sure BA likes to fly the refurbed planes on the lucrative London-New York route.
Also, I think you're correct, it's only G-YMMR (which flew BA180/BA181 on 8/9 Sep) and G-YMMS (which flew them on 4/5 Sep) left on the LHR fleet.
G-YMMU has been parked since July and no news on it's return to LHR unfortunatley!
Also, I think you're correct, it's only G-YMMR (which flew BA180/BA181 on 8/9 Sep) and G-YMMS (which flew them on 4/5 Sep) left on the LHR fleet.
G-YMMU has been parked since July and no news on it's return to LHR unfortunatley!
Sep 25, 2022, 11:32 am
#1282
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,408
As a regular on an LGW 777 for a leisure route (PUJ), almost everyone is travelling in a pair, and many many families in J. I just can't see that Club Suites would work for couples or families, it's very hard to communicate with anyone else and it would be hell with a young child if for example you booked a centre pair and had to constantly run around the cabin to get to the child on the other side.
Sep 25, 2022, 4:58 pm
#1283
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: BA, Virgin Atlantic, Alaska, JetBlue, Marriott Bonvoy, Hertz
Posts: 78
Either way I feel like SFO always tends to get the older aircraft for some reason. It wasn't that long ago the B747 still flew (love the jumbo, but product was very old).
I'd love to see the A350 finally get here. I was on the A380 yesterday and it was packed, not sure if it's to avoid having 3 flights per day?
Sep 25, 2022, 5:16 pm
#1284
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,472
SFO life is sad life.
On another note, I wonder if we will see the CS 777 go back to Tokyo? Perhaps someone more informed can tell me if the CS configured aircraft are capable of doing that flight given the current airspace issues necessitating a long routing.
BA has the 787 scheduled on that route when it resumes in November. I have no idea who would ever book CW when ANA will be offering The Room on that route.
Last edited by nexusCFX; Sep 25, 2022 at 5:24 pm
Sep 25, 2022, 5:34 pm
#1285
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: BA, Virgin Atlantic, Alaska, JetBlue, Marriott Bonvoy, Hertz
Posts: 78
Airlines giving their verdicts on the challenges the city is facing in general?!
Definitely seeing some interesting flight paths at the moment.
Looks like the BA 777 fleet comprises 200ER and 300ER, both of which have some CS retrofitted aircraft, and have ranges of 7,065 and 7,370 nmi respectively. Not sure if/how much this changes based on 3- or 4- class config, imagine not much.
LHR to HND/NRT is 5,191 nmi Great Circle distance, looks like the longer routing is about 1,000 more. By comparison B789 typically has range of 7,635 nmi so I'd imagine the 777s are fine, the 300 almost certainly. JL and NH flying the 300 on that longer routing currently.
Looks like the BA 777 fleet comprises 200ER and 300ER, both of which have some CS retrofitted aircraft, and have ranges of 7,065 and 7,370 nmi respectively. Not sure if/how much this changes based on 3- or 4- class config, imagine not much.
LHR to HND/NRT is 5,191 nmi Great Circle distance, looks like the longer routing is about 1,000 more. By comparison B789 typically has range of 7,635 nmi so I'd imagine the 777s are fine, the 300 almost certainly. JL and NH flying the 300 on that longer routing currently.
Last edited by joydiv; Sep 25, 2022 at 6:25 pm
Sep 26, 2022, 5:42 pm
#1286
Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Francisco, where else?
Programs: EXP,EX-CK 2.5mm, now lifetime Platinum, ex-UA1K, Marriott- Platinum, Hertz 5*
Posts: 991
If you book a CS flight and it's converted to an aircraft with the old CW suites, how do seats convert over? We are in 1A and 2A SFO LHR on a CS seat map and am concerned we will end up on aisles in CW.
Sep 27, 2022, 5:37 am
#1287
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Dublin
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 52
On another note, I wonder if we will see the CS 777 go back to Tokyo? Perhaps someone more informed can tell me if the CS configured aircraft are capable of doing that flight given the current airspace issues necessitating a long routing.
BA has the 787 scheduled on that route when it resumes in November. I have no idea who would ever book CW when ANA will be offering The Room on that route.
I'd hope with Japan reopening BA would really want to ramp up the experience on that route as demand will likely be high going into Spring 2023.
Sep 27, 2022, 7:47 am
#1288
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,472
I'm hoping for this. I have 2 for 1 redemption on the Tokyo route for Jan 2023. I had the same route booked for 2020 and it was showing Club Suites. It would be nice to have an updated seat now that the flight will be 14 hours!
I'd hope with Japan reopening BA would really want to ramp up the experience on that route as demand will likely be high going into Spring 2023.
I'd hope with Japan reopening BA would really want to ramp up the experience on that route as demand will likely be high going into Spring 2023.
Sep 27, 2022, 9:30 am
#1289
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,113
I made a booking for the end of February with a LHR-PHL included, and I had the "sad" surprise to find the old CW map when choosing the seats. My husband hates them, so I am crossing my finger for some sort of "miracle" that will assigna CS plane on that route. Are there any real chances for that?
Sep 27, 2022, 9:38 am
#1290
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,266
I made a booking for the end of February with a LHR-PHL included, and I had the "sad" surprise to find the old CW map when choosing the seats. My husband hates them, so I am crossing my finger for some sort of "miracle" that will assigna CS plane on that route. Are there any real chances for that?
Pilot37
Last edited by Pilot37; Oct 3, 2022 at 2:22 pm