Only juice and water in business class PDB at Sydney...?
Apr 20, 2019, 2:36 am
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Me too (or if it applied to anything onboard). Don't mean to move Omni, but religion should have no business telling people who do not believe how to live or not to live on and around planes (among other places). I realise that a number of highly religious countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran have different conceptions, but I'd be outraged if Australia or any other democracy followed suit.
Apr 20, 2019, 2:39 am
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BA don’t pay duty on the bars, therefore we are unable to open them until we take-off. To to enable us to offer the pre departure service the catering suppliers should load bottles of duty paid champagne, however on some occasions this does not happen and it puts the crew in an awkward position as I mentioned earlier as we can’t open the bars. Hence you get crew reverting to serving just juice and water. Like most crew I would be more than happy to get you a glass of champagne once we are in the air and we can open the bars.
Crew have received numerous reminders about not opening bars on the ground, so please don’t give the crew a hard time over this, it’s outside of their control.
Rest assured every time champagne is not loaded it’s noted on the onboard form and fed back to the company
Crew have received numerous reminders about not opening bars on the ground, so please don’t give the crew a hard time over this, it’s outside of their control.
Rest assured every time champagne is not loaded it’s noted on the onboard form and fed back to the company
Apr 20, 2019, 2:40 am
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Easter as a religious event often brings additional rules. For example larger stores in the UK are closed on Easter Sunday. I heard yesterday from a friend who claimed that bars may not be open in Dublin on Easter Sunday (unconfirmed). Therefore, it is conceivable that there may be rules in Australia around serving any alcohol (including PDB) around the Easter holiday.
It's a possible theory. Happy for it to be debunked.
I believe the fault of the Presbyterians?
Apr 20, 2019, 5:16 am
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BA don’t pay duty on the bars, therefore we are unable to open them until we take-off. To to enable us to offer the pre departure service the catering suppliers should load bottles of duty paid champagne, however on some occasions this does not happen and it puts the crew in an awkward position as I mentioned earlier as we can’t open the bars. Hence you get crew reverting to serving just juice and water. Like most crew I would be more than happy to get you a glass of champagne once we are in the air and we can open the bars.
Crew have received numerous reminders about not opening bars on the ground, so please don’t give the crew a hard time over this, it’s outside of their control.
Rest assured every time champagne is not loaded it’s noted on the onboard form and fed back to the company
Crew have received numerous reminders about not opening bars on the ground, so please don’t give the crew a hard time over this, it’s outside of their control.
Rest assured every time champagne is not loaded it’s noted on the onboard form and fed back to the company
Apr 20, 2019, 5:33 am
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Me too (or if it applied to anything onboard). Don't mean to move Omni, but religion should have no business telling people who do not believe how to live or not to live on and around planes (among other places). I realise that a number of highly religious countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran have different conceptions, but I'd be outraged if Australia or any other democracy followed suit.
Apr 20, 2019, 6:22 am
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Me too (or if it applied to anything onboard). Don't mean to move Omni, but religion should have no business telling people who do not believe how to live or not to live on and around planes (among other places). I realise that a number of highly religious countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran have different conceptions, but I'd be outraged if Australia or any other democracy followed suit.
the U.K. has some restrictions at Easter and Christmas for example.
many European countries have Sunday hours restrictions. Not just for alcohol but when shops can open as well.
Many parts of the US also have rules - no booze served in lounges at JFK until 10am on a Sunday for example.restrictions on when stores can sell alcohol. Prohibition was a secular not religious campaign and it was the same when it got reversed.
and whilst AA will serve me a GnT as a PdB on an internal flight they won’t on an International.
Apr 20, 2019, 6:31 am
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I'm not aware of those rules
Apr 20, 2019, 7:10 am
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This sounds as though it was a catering error and that the crew handled the recovery well, but could have explained it better. One presumes that the "duty paid" items were not loaded. It happens. Just as food catering is sometimes off.
I presume that there must have been a few minis of the duty paid stuff rolling around WT+, so that was all that could be served.
Carriers have to take the issue seriously because if they are found to have broken the customs seal prior to departure, they face significant fines and a suspension of their license as well as the ability to serve bonded liquor at all.
I presume that there must have been a few minis of the duty paid stuff rolling around WT+, so that was all that could be served.
Carriers have to take the issue seriously because if they are found to have broken the customs seal prior to departure, they face significant fines and a suspension of their license as well as the ability to serve bonded liquor at all.
Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 am
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That I cannot answer! Even the normal WT bars should not be opened. Maybe the crew thought it would be easier to give the OP a small bottle of Cava to prevent a complaint? Or maybe they thought they were going above and beyond for the OP? Could be any number of reasons.
Apr 20, 2019, 7:22 am
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Does BA get a refund for this missing Champagne?
Apr 20, 2019, 7:45 am
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Brian is correct... All onboard alcohol is duty free and can only be served while airborne. thus crew can only serve Duty-Paid PDB's. -Jon
Apr 20, 2019, 7:50 am
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Catering was very off.
Once in the air we were told there were no menus so they would read the menu to us. This resulted in extraordinarily slow service.
We we are in Singapore now and happy to be done with BA. They were, overall, wretched.
Once in the air we were told there were no menus so they would read the menu to us. This resulted in extraordinarily slow service.
We we are in Singapore now and happy to be done with BA. They were, overall, wretched.
Apr 20, 2019, 9:34 am
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That I cannot answer! Even the normal WT bars should not be opened. Maybe the crew thought it would be easier to give the OP a small bottle of Cava to prevent a complaint? Or maybe they thought they were going above and beyond for the OP? Could be any number of reasons.
Apr 20, 2019, 9:37 am
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Apr 20, 2019, 9:40 am
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