Mar 19, 2019, 11:46 am
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
BA NEW CLUB SUITE, WILL I GET IT?
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
What with the arrival of BA's biggest change in business class for some decades, this thread is intended to ask the inevitable question that I am sure many will want to know the answer to, something along the lines of "I am travelling on XX Jan 2036 from Heathrow to Sydney, will I get the new business class seat?"
Please do ask if you are not sure if your flight will fly the seat or not, its safe to say the more info you provide the more accurate the answer will be.
Aircraft involved: A350-1000XWB (also known as A351 and A350-1000), B787-10 (also known as B781) and a limited number of B777-200ER (B772).
Planned flights with the new Club Suites (information as of 16 December 2019):
IN SERVICE
=========
MADRID ~ starting 06 AUGUST 2019
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA464
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA465
LHR > MAD ~ Flight no: BA456
MAD > LHR ~ Flight no: BA457
Note: this is far from guaranteed. On some days there may be an A350 or a B777, and the latter may or may not have CS. The service could also have a late switch to more convenional shorthaul equipment.
TORONTO YYZ ~ started 01 Oct. 2019
DUBAI DXB ~ started 02 Sep. 2019
Aircraft A351- BA109/BA108
(NEW YORK) JOHN F KENNEDY JFK ~ started 09 Oct. 2019
BA175/116 05SEP20 / 03OCT20 / 10OCT20 / 19OCT20 – 24OCT20
BA173/112 01AUG20 – 24OCT20
BA115/176 02SEP20 – 23OCT20 (Day x6)
BA113/114 16OCT20 / 17OCT20
FORTHCOMING
=============
ABU DHABI ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ABUJA ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
ATLANTA ATL ~ starting Feb. 2020 (TBC)
Inaugural route for 787-10
AUSTIN AUS ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft A351 -BA191/BA190
BAHRAIN BAH ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to Damman)
BANGALORE BLR ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft B772 then A351 from 29 March.
BOSTON BOS ~ starting Apr. 2020
Aircraft 772 - BA215/BA214
DALLAS-FORT WORTH DFW ~ starting Apr. 2020
DAMMAN DMM ~ starting Oct. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Bahrain)
Aircraft 772
GRAND CAYMAN GCM ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Nassau service)
Aircraft 772
NASHVILLE BNA ~ starting 3 Sep. 2020 (TBC)
(limited dates only, also 11 June 2020)
Aircraft 781
NASSAU NAS ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
(continues to/from Grand Cayman service)
Aircraft 772
NEWARK EWR ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
MOSCOW DME ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 772
PHILADELPHIA PHL ~ starting Apr. 2020 (TBC)
Aircraft 351 BA67/BA66
SEATTLE SEA ~ starting Sep. 2020
Aircraft 772
TEL AVIV TLV ~ starting Jan. 2020
Aircraft A351 BA167/BA166
TOKYO NRT ~ starting July 2020
Aircraft 351 - note, not all services
WASHINGTON IAD ~ starting 29 Mar. 2020
Aircraft A351
FAQ : BA Club Suite tracker : (When) Will I get the new CS seat on my flight?
Aug 10, 2019, 6:30 am
#46
Join Date: May 2011
Location: BOS
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Posts: 493
The 777 densification thread has vastly more detailed information on Club Suite roll-out than this thread does.
The 777 refurb info there is very detailed. Anyone mind if I add that into this wiki? Info such as how many 777s have been refitted and when the next ones are due in is much more useful, especially once they enter rotations and you can't definitively tell the seat layout based on the aircraft (as you can today with A350-only).
The 777 refurb info there is very detailed. Anyone mind if I add that into this wiki? Info such as how many 777s have been refitted and when the next ones are due in is much more useful, especially once they enter rotations and you can't definitively tell the seat layout based on the aircraft (as you can today with A350-only).
I searched but could not find it.
Aug 10, 2019, 7:55 am
#47
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Aug 10, 2019, 8:28 am
#49
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Posts: 3,439
The 777 densification thread has vastly more detailed information on Club Suite roll-out than this thread does.
The 777 refurb info there is very detailed. Anyone mind if I add that into this wiki? Info such as how many 777s have been refitted and when the next ones are due in is much more useful, especially once they enter rotations and you can't definitively tell the seat layout based on the aircraft (as you can today with A350-only).
The 777 refurb info there is very detailed. Anyone mind if I add that into this wiki? Info such as how many 777s have been refitted and when the next ones are due in is much more useful, especially once they enter rotations and you can't definitively tell the seat layout based on the aircraft (as you can today with A350-only).
Whilst like any core thread that helps a majority, I am completely happy with anyone wanting to edit or add relevant and very useful info to the wiki, that will help the general premise of the thread. In this case will get the CS on my flight?!
The 777 refurb thread is far more detailed because it’s very useful for that aircraft type. I think with the CS it will span most of the longhaul fleet (bar the 747), so I personally would be hesitant that this doesn’t become a copy of that refurb thread and cause confusion or grey areas. I’m happy to be challenged on that but as we can see from the new A350, the threads starts piling up and people aren’t always sure where to post.
I’d like to be as simple as a central place to ask the question, rather than a central place that confines itself to a wiki. It also can promote inclusion and get the lurkers talking or participating instead of just referring to a wiki that might not always be accurate.
What are people’s thoughts on this?
Aug 16, 2019, 6:30 am
#50
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 339
Makes sense.
For me, the more interesting question is not "When will I get the seat on my flight?", but rather, "What is the progress of the Club Suite rollout?"
This thread is helpful on a route number basis. I was hoping it could also be useful on a aircraft by aircraft basis across the fleet - exactly as the Wifi soft-launch thread is.
The wifi thread was what was in my mind as I made the suggestion. Once we have partial rollout across an aircraft type (777s first, presumably followed by A380s and then 787s later), knowing, say, 6 of 12 A380s have Club Suite is more useful, since a given route will be hit and miss.
I recall the New First tracking threads worked similarly.
For me, the more interesting question is not "When will I get the seat on my flight?", but rather, "What is the progress of the Club Suite rollout?"
This thread is helpful on a route number basis. I was hoping it could also be useful on a aircraft by aircraft basis across the fleet - exactly as the Wifi soft-launch thread is.
The wifi thread was what was in my mind as I made the suggestion. Once we have partial rollout across an aircraft type (777s first, presumably followed by A380s and then 787s later), knowing, say, 6 of 12 A380s have Club Suite is more useful, since a given route will be hit and miss.
I recall the New First tracking threads worked similarly.
Aug 16, 2019, 12:08 pm
#51
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold(twice), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 679
BLR A350 Jan 2020 at risk?
Does any insider have any more info pls (am booked Jan 13th) ?
Sep 10, 2019, 4:03 am
#55
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Location: South East England
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Is anyone booked on one of the initial 777 Club Suite flights over the coming months? Would be good to hear what it's like especially in terms of which seats look like the best picks. I'm excited to be booked on the Club Suite 777 on BOS-LHR next February and definitely want to hold off reserving my seat until there is some feedback from others.
Sep 10, 2019, 4:27 am
#57
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,252
Is anyone booked on one of the initial 777 Club Suite flights over the coming months? Would be good to hear what it's like especially in terms of which seats look like the best picks. I'm excited to be booked on the Club Suite 777 on BOS-LHR next February and definitely want to hold off reserving my seat until there is some feedback from others.
Sep 10, 2019, 4:33 am
#58
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: BA Exec Club
Posts: 955
Also only tangentially Club Suite-related but seems like a sensible enough place to ask - do we have any further idea what F on the Club Suite-equipped 777 will look like, is this confirmed as just current 777 F with all but the first two rows of seats ripped out?
Sep 11, 2019, 4:59 am
#59
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Location: South East England
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Not sure if it's already been noticed, but google flights now appears to indicate where a flight has the new Club Suite. Maybe it's been like this for ages and I just haven't noticed until now! 
Sep 11, 2019, 8:33 am
#60
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Location: BOS
Programs: AA PLT, Marriott LTP
Posts: 493
Is anyone booked on one of the initial 777 Club Suite flights over the coming months? Would be good to hear what it's like especially in terms of which seats look like the best picks. I'm excited to be booked on the Club Suite 777 on BOS-LHR next February and definitely want to hold off reserving my seat until there is some feedback from others.
Actually upgraded to F using Avios. If my flight gets switched to the new suite, should I/can I downgrade? What's better the new suite or the F seat from the 787?
After looking at pictures, there doesn't seem to be much difference.