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Originally Posted by Paren (Post 30746681)

Is it true that BA own T7 (I.e. not just operate out of it but own the building) or not?

It's leased from the Port Authority by BA and thus operated by BA.

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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK (Post 30745902)

BA Press release:

British Airways and American Airlines have a joint business partnership across the Atlantic, providing up to 70 flights a day from London to the USA

70? Really that many?

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Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 30746589)

Are there any clues if there’ll be A380 compatible gates at T8?

…and hopefully the ability to board directly from the lounge, as in the new BA lounge at BOS :cool:

This is great news and glad it's come to light. JFK really needs this.

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Originally Posted by ExpatExp (Post 30746772)

…and hopefully the ability to board directly from the lounge, as in the new BA lounge at BOS :cool:

It’s the obvious facility to copy and add in an F/CCR lounge.

Will this mean the use of A380s on the LHR - JFK route? If so, will BA pick up some of the aircraft which Emirates is reportedly seeking to swap for A350s, 'if the price is right'?

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Originally Posted by Worcester (Post 30746770)

70? Really that many?

Note this is the London to US count, not just JFK.

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Originally Posted by Worcester (Post 30746770)

70? Really that many?

Taking a random week in July, I got to 71

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Originally Posted by dylanks (Post 30746819)

Note this is the London to US count, not just JFK.

Yes that would make sense, read it too quickly and got it in my mind it just meant New York.

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Originally Posted by Paren (Post 30746681)

Is it true that BA own T7 (I.e. not just operate out of it but own the building) or not?

They only lease the terminal from the Port Authority (who in turn lease it from the City of New York)

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Originally Posted by Worcester (Post 30746914)

Yes that would make sense, read it too quickly and got it in my mind it just meant New York.

I think there’s 40 flights a day from London to New York airports across all airlines (if anyones interested?).

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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell (Post 30746195)

One would assume Aer Lingus will also move to the new T8. Given their impending joining of the joint venture and JetBlue expanding T5 it would seem to make sense

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Originally Posted by jdsworld (Post 30746350)

I wouldn't say it's that likely - don't forget Aer Lingus flights to the US are pre-cleared in Ireland, so are treated differently for US immigration and customs.

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Originally Posted by bmibaby737 (Post 30746395)

There’s no gurantee they would move but wouldn’t they just offload into T8 as a domestic flight?

Indeed the vast majority of AA flights to JFK are domestic or pre-cleared, so I don't see why EI being pre-cleared would make it less likely to co-locate. If anything it makes even more sense for EI, since connections to AA would then be absolutely seamless.

The long term plan will hopefully see T8 extended towards the east although going by today's announcement that is clearly much further down the line

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This is what the finished Terminal 8 was supposed to look like when initially conceived. The renderings offered by American today (see below) suggest they are really only adding 2 gates and "re-gating" (aka reducing) some of the regional jet gates to create 3 more wide-body capable gates. Total gate count at T8 will likely stay even or go down. It's about the absolute minimum expansion they could do to accommodate BA. They mention that some of the investment will go towards lounges which in all likelihood means that they will be expanding the current Flagship lounge (while probably rebranding it as a One World lounge). I would not be surprised to see them also offer a dedicated OneWorld First lounge given the relatively large amount of 1st class seats that BA still flies to LHR.

The elimination of the regional jet gates suggests that the number of non-stop domestic locations served by AA from JFK will be reduced, perhaps substantially, which may limit its connecting value to passengers from the UK. This would be in line with AA's move to push more northeast US connecting traffic through PHL. JFK seems destined to become focused almost entirely on O&D traffic for AA in contrast to Delta and JetBlue which both appear to be committed to keeping JFK as a key connecting hub.

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I guess instead of providing a CCR they could enhance that service... a voucher for a Starbucks Coffee, a 6" subway sandwich, a complimentary browse of The Daily Mail and some wet wipes in lieu of shower facilities. Sort of in line with their current enhancements.