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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Dec 26, 2019, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by RafKa
OP was asking about TP runs from the west coast.
Well, the actual OP didn't ask anything. As for the issue at hand: a fare from the "wrong" coast to Asia can be combined with a domestic US fare. There's some decent premium cabin fares from the US to generate TPs. In fact there's also from the West coast, but they've already been covered in the past, so no need to repost.
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Old Dec 26, 2019, 11:53 am
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Hi all and Merry Christmas. I have been trying to replicate LGA/DCA - PHL - CLT - RDU for February on the West Coast, but can't seem to get anything under £450! Has anyone come across any worthwhile TP runs in that part of the world? Missing PTY!!!
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Old Dec 27, 2019, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by AlphaXray
Hi all and Merry Christmas. I have been trying to replicate LGA/DCA - PHL - CLT - RDU for February on the West Coast, but can't seem to get anything under £450! Has anyone come across any worthwhile TP runs in that part of the world? Missing PTY!!!

Seems to fit the old saying 'East is East, and West is West'. During the last year I've done some minor runs like LAS-LAX-SJC r/t for $280 , which gives an acceptable £/TP of 1.37

There was a period (March?) when the price was $230+, but personally didn't manage to get that
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Old Dec 28, 2019, 6:25 am
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Just been made aware of a flash sale (book by Dec 29) on MH ex-China. I have booked a trip to KTM for 6800 RMB (Z fare class) for vacation next year - works out at about GBP1.34/TP.

Best deal seems to be PVG-BKK giving as low as 1.14GBP/TP - though I didn't check if that price is also valid for the lie-flat flight (one flight each day on a 33x and one on a 737 as far as I recall).
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Old Dec 28, 2019, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by GinFizz
Just been made aware of a flash sale (book by Dec 29) on MH ex-China. I have booked a trip to KTM for 6800 RMB (Z fare class) for vacation next year - works out at about GBP1.34/TP.

Best deal seems to be PVG-BKK giving as low as 1.14GBP/TP - though I didn't check if that price is also valid for the lie-flat flight (one flight each day on a 33x and one on a 737 as far as I recall).
Is that on Y or J? I'm assuming PVG-BKK via KUL?
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Old Dec 28, 2019, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare
Is that on Y or J? I'm assuming PVG-BKK via KUL?
It's a discounted business class fare. I think it's safe to say that unless otherwise specified, discussion here is by default business class.
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Old Dec 28, 2019, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by dougzz
It's a discounted business class fare. I think it's safe to say that unless otherwise specified, discussion here is by default business class.
I'll keep that in mind going forward.

Thx bro!
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Old Dec 28, 2019, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by lsquare
I'll keep that in mind going forward.

Thx bro!
Yes - that was a business class fare on MH via KUL - where I am now Hope you can find a deal that works for you!
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by onobond
Seems to fit the old saying 'East is East, and West is West'. During the last year I've done some minor runs like LAS-LAX-SJC r/t for $280 , which gives an acceptable £/TP of 1.37

There was a period (March?) when the price was $230+, but personally didn't manage to get that
Thanks Onobond. Will keep an eye on that.
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 1:46 pm
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I have a weeks holiday to use, or lose in the 2nd half of Jan which id like to use as time for a TP run of some sort. Based in the UK but happy with an ex-EU. Wiki options are showing a nice USA routing from DUB but it was over by 18th December :-(

anything similar avaialble out there? or am i best looking at an Ex-EU to asia....Likely BKK?

thanks in advance
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Old Dec 29, 2019, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisTheZulu
I have a weeks holiday to use, or lose in the 2nd half of Jan which id like to use as time for a TP run of some sort. Based in the UK but happy with an ex-EU. Wiki options are showing a nice USA routing from DUB but it was over by 18th December :-(

anything similar avaialble out there? or am i best looking at an Ex-EU to asia....Likely BKK?

thanks in advance
QR have some pretty juicy fares ex MAD & BCN, heading to JNB or CPT in the next few weeks. I would probably have gone for it myself if I weren't already booked.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 4:45 am
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Hi everyone,

Has anyone had success with Powertools and ITA Matrix recently? I'm planning a tier point run to the West Coast of the USA and I'm encountering the following errors:
  • On the US / UK version of AA.com I can get all the way to the payment page, use PayPal to check out and then get a message saying the fare is no longer available.
  • On the EU version of AA.com I get the 'fare unavailable' message much sooner in the process.
  • The BA.com link immediately asks me to plan a different route (I can never get BA.com to show a complex route planned on ITA Matrix).
Many thanks in advance!

Adam
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 5:31 am
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Originally Posted by adamgilbride
Hi everyone,

Has anyone had success with Powertools and ITA Matrix recently? I'm planning a tier point run to the West Coast of the USA and I'm encountering the following errors:
  • On the US / UK version of AA.com I can get all the way to the payment page, use PayPal to check out and then get a message saying the fare is no longer available.
  • On the EU version of AA.com I get the 'fare unavailable' message much sooner in the process.
  • The BA.com link immediately asks me to plan a different route (I can never get BA.com to show a complex route planned on ITA Matrix).
Many thanks in advance!

Adam
Someone will probably propose a solution – but in these circumstances I have found phoning the reservations line or a good travel agent (I like AmEx) to be the easiest way. Read off the flight numbers and they should be able to price it.

My experience is that when you explain you wanted to book this online but the multi-city tool cannot accommodate your desired itinerary then any fees for booking by phone are waived.

The other advantage of travel agents typically in my experience is being able to pay GBP for trips starting ex-UK.
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by The_Bouncer
QR have some pretty juicy fares ex MAD & BCN, heading to JNB or CPT in the next few weeks. I would probably have gone for it myself if I weren't already booked.
thanks - had a look - a touch more than the asia options. going by cost, rather than destination ;-)
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Old Dec 30, 2019, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisTheZulu
thanks - had a look - a touch more than the asia options. going by cost, rather than destination ;-)
Try SOF-SIN
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