Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Sep 10, 2019, 4:34 am
#2791
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: London
Programs: BA, Marriott, Starwood, Hyatt
Posts: 44
The technical questions around Matrix are probably best asked over on the travel tools forum
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
As it happens it seems overnight more availability has been loaded. I’ve managed to book a traditional OTP-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHX TP run next July for just under £1,500. 800TPs so just under £2 per TP, which I think is decent value.
Found flights on Matrix, Powetools to AA Germany and booked very easily.
Last edited by hammers2958; Sep 10, 2019 at 8:38 am Reason: Correcting typo
Sep 10, 2019, 7:52 am
#2792
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 478
Not the best fare, but there are a few dates where this works (sadly not quite for mine), ARN-LHR-JFK-LAX-NorthCalifornia, 1000TPs return for ~£2.8k (2.81£/TP) in April. This one does include school holidays, so maybe it'll help someone. Both TATL and TCON in First, Minimum stay is 7 days. Must be issued on 001 stock. Fare: AA INX9C7S4.
I'm sending Mr NW on a TP run to ensure he maintains his GGL status. Its worth it for the ability to book 4 x F longhaul redemptions at peak periods (Christmas and summer school holidays).
What is currently in favour as a high earning, good value TP run? I reckon he needs to manufacture c.1000 TPs by next March so plenty of time.
What is currently in favour as a high earning, good value TP run? I reckon he needs to manufacture c.1000 TPs by next March so plenty of time.
Sep 11, 2019, 2:00 am
#2795
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 375
CGN-LGW or vice versa
Nets 80 tp
£135 CGN-LGW £1.68 per tp
£147 LGW-CGN £1.83 per tp
Again not the best value but if you're short its perfect
Can be found on GF
£135 CGN-LGW £1.68 per tp
£147 LGW-CGN £1.83 per tp
Again not the best value but if you're short its perfect
Can be found on GF
Sep 11, 2019, 9:59 am
#2796
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
My TP run from FRA-MAD-FRA has just gone wrong.
Nice £144 business fare for 80TP but they've cancelled the outbound and neglected to tell me. Only found out from a second flight board after arriving at FRA, the first saying nothing but the gate.
Over an hour in a very slow queue right now.
Going to just stick to AA and HEL runs in future and avoid anything South American or thereabouts.
Nice £144 business fare for 80TP but they've cancelled the outbound and neglected to tell me. Only found out from a second flight board after arriving at FRA, the first saying nothing but the gate.
Over an hour in a very slow queue right now.
Going to just stick to AA and HEL runs in future and avoid anything South American or thereabouts.
Sep 11, 2019, 10:24 am
#2797
Join Date: Sep 2018
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 136
My TP run from FRA-MAD-FRA has just gone wrong.
Nice £144 business fare for 80TP but they've cancelled the outbound and neglected to tell me. Only found out from a second flight board after arriving at FRA, the first saying nothing but the gate.
Over an hour in a very slow queue right now.
Going to just stick to AA and HEL runs in future and avoid anything South American or thereabouts.
Nice £144 business fare for 80TP but they've cancelled the outbound and neglected to tell me. Only found out from a second flight board after arriving at FRA, the first saying nothing but the gate.
Over an hour in a very slow queue right now.
Going to just stick to AA and HEL runs in future and avoid anything South American or thereabouts.
Historically the stats have been good and cancellations can happen to any airline, so hopefully this doesn't dissuade you from giving them another chance.
https://www.flightstats.com/v2/fligh...ing/LA/705/MAD
Sep 11, 2019, 10:37 am
#2798
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
Sorry to hear. It looks like the inbound LA704 SCL-MAD was 40 minutes late and they've aborted the MAD-FRA rotation, opting to head back to SCL this evening.
Historically the stats have been good and cancellations can happen to any airline, so hopefully this doesn't dissuade you from giving them another chance.
https://www.flightstats.com/v2/fligh...ing/LA/705/MAD
Historically the stats have been good and cancellations can happen to any airline, so hopefully this doesn't dissuade you from giving them another chance.
https://www.flightstats.com/v2/fligh...ing/LA/705/MAD
Booked this weeks ago during some time off from work. Would have rather tried for an OTP run but not enough time and FRA was easy to get to, and the chance of trying the LA 787 was appealing.
I generally have a one strike and you're out rule.
Sep 11, 2019, 11:35 am
#2800
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
AA have been no problem either.
Had no other cancellations as of yet.
LATAM seem to be offering the online option of booking for tomorrow, hours after I'm supposed to leave MAD. No use to me as I've flights back to MAN booked.
No-one has had any emails etc. If I had something before leaving London, at least I could have gone home. Now I'm stuck here for a day or so.
Might try for a hotel. Worse cities to camp out in.
Vet they would pay for one.
This might be getting a bit more EU261 thread content now.
Sep 11, 2019, 11:45 am
#2801
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 207
This seems slightly double-posting.
I replied to the thread you made in the LA forum.
Note that EU261 stipulates they must put you on the next available comparable flight. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow evening's LA705. There are a bunch of options to get you to MAD substantially earlier. LH, UX, FR, and IB all fly FRA-MAD nonstop. There are a lot of relatively painless routings with one stop as well.
It seems you have a C ticket. That pretty much rules out FR. But most if not all of the other carriers do have a business cabin.
I replied to the thread you made in the LA forum.
Note that EU261 stipulates they must put you on the next available comparable flight. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow evening's LA705. There are a bunch of options to get you to MAD substantially earlier. LH, UX, FR, and IB all fly FRA-MAD nonstop. There are a lot of relatively painless routings with one stop as well.
It seems you have a C ticket. That pretty much rules out FR. But most if not all of the other carriers do have a business cabin.
Sep 11, 2019, 12:22 pm
#2802
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
This seems slightly double-posting.
I replied to the thread you made in the LA forum.
Note that EU261 stipulates they must put you on the next available comparable flight. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow evening's LA705. There are a bunch of options to get you to MAD substantially earlier. LH, UX, FR, and IB all fly FRA-MAD nonstop. There are a lot of relatively painless routings with one stop as well.
It seems you have a C ticket. That pretty much rules out FR. But most if not all of the other carriers do have a business cabin.
I replied to the thread you made in the LA forum.
Note that EU261 stipulates they must put you on the next available comparable flight. I wouldn't wait until tomorrow evening's LA705. There are a bunch of options to get you to MAD substantially earlier. LH, UX, FR, and IB all fly FRA-MAD nonstop. There are a lot of relatively painless routings with one stop as well.
It seems you have a C ticket. That pretty much rules out FR. But most if not all of the other carriers do have a business cabin.
Got myself rebooked on Iberia in the morning and getting some hotel tonight. Just have to get up at some early hour to go and check-in etc.
Hope they don't notice my negative points balance from their promo last year
Did notice that on my booking on their website, it changed from "cancelled" to "rescheduled".
Do I still get the TP for the booking (or a case of having to jump through hoops for them)?
Just need to figure out what I'm entitled to.
Got my Madrid hotel booked on IHG points as it was around £240 for the night and 25k seemed better value.
Can't remember if these points are classed as having a cash value for claims, insurance or otherwise.
Anyway, LHR-HEL will be my next run assuming I can find something well below £300. At least that can't go too wrong
My return LA flight is apparently fine.
Sep 11, 2019, 1:57 pm
#2803
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 207
Question for all: What if xenole hat gotten himself rebooked on LH. Could he double-dip and get original routing credit for the cancelled LA flight?
Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 pm
#2804
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Well, IB will yield the same amount of TP and probably slighty more Avios than LA. No 787 and no lie-flat seat but the s***ty IB seat, though.
Question for all: What if xenole hat gotten himself rebooked on LH. Could he double-dip and get original routing credit for the cancelled LA flight?
Question for all: What if xenole hat gotten himself rebooked on LH. Could he double-dip and get original routing credit for the cancelled LA flight?
Sep 18, 2019, 12:29 pm
#2805
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 172
Club Europe Tier Point Run
Being retired and having too much time on my hands I have been looking at trying to take advantage of some of the current 80 tier point Club Europe deals. I was able to book the following:
Legs 1 and 8 simple return 235 GBP
Legs 2, 3, 6 and 7 multi leg booking 499 Euros
Legs 4 and 5 simple return 284 Euros
Total cost 929 GBP for 640 Tier Points (£1.45/point). A tedious 4 days spent on BTB flights but no other costs except getting to/from LHR from home 4 times.
I am sure even better value can be had in the Winter eg the multi booking leg referred to above (SOF-LHR-HEL return) with travel dates of 2nd,3rd, 9th and 10th December comes in at 391 EUR.
In total the 8 leg itinerary earns 24,000 Avios as BA Gold.
Finding the cheapest prices is tedious since I have found google flights and BA simple return searches (such as SOF-HEL) unreliable. I ended up working from low fare finder for the two locations to see where cheap fares aligned.
- 11 May LHR-SOF
- 11 May SOF-LHR
- 12 May LHR-HEL
- 12 May HEL-LHR
- 27 May LHR-HEL
- 27 May HEL-LHR
- 28 May LHR-SOF
- 28 May SOF-LHR
Legs 1 and 8 simple return 235 GBP
Legs 2, 3, 6 and 7 multi leg booking 499 Euros
Legs 4 and 5 simple return 284 Euros
Total cost 929 GBP for 640 Tier Points (£1.45/point). A tedious 4 days spent on BTB flights but no other costs except getting to/from LHR from home 4 times.
I am sure even better value can be had in the Winter eg the multi booking leg referred to above (SOF-LHR-HEL return) with travel dates of 2nd,3rd, 9th and 10th December comes in at 391 EUR.
In total the 8 leg itinerary earns 24,000 Avios as BA Gold.
Finding the cheapest prices is tedious since I have found google flights and BA simple return searches (such as SOF-HEL) unreliable. I ended up working from low fare finder for the two locations to see where cheap fares aligned.