Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Oct 16, 2019, 4:44 pm
#3016
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: Mucci, BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Stena Gold
Posts: 1,094
somewhere back up thread i posted
LBA-LHR-HEL-LHR-OTP-LHR-IST-LHR-ABZ-LHR-HEL-LHR-MAN
800TP over a long weekend......
LBA-LHR-HEL-LHR-OTP-LHR-IST-LHR-ABZ-LHR-HEL-LHR-MAN
800TP over a long weekend......
Oct 16, 2019, 8:27 pm
#3017
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SIN
Posts: 196
If the destination is important, why not consider a QR trip to Asia? It's usually 560 TP in J (140 per segment x 4) and it might be a more interesting destination for (i) a couple travelling together and (ii) to spend up to a week.
Nip over to the premium fares forum here: QR: ZAG - BKK (and many more destinations) companion sale €1,279pp Business QSuites there's a current discussion on ZAG - BKK for £1,108. Add on a RFS to ZAG and you're in business - and not much incremental cost to your multi Europe trips.
Nip over to the premium fares forum here: QR: ZAG - BKK (and many more destinations) companion sale €1,279pp Business QSuites there's a current discussion on ZAG - BKK for £1,108. Add on a RFS to ZAG and you're in business - and not much incremental cost to your multi Europe trips.
Oct 17, 2019, 10:20 am
#3018
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21
Thank you everyone for really good suggestion. Even if I didn't take up on the offers, this really opened my eyes on how you could do TP runs within Europe as well.
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
Oct 17, 2019, 4:33 pm
#3019
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,294
Thank you everyone for really good suggestion. Even if I didn't take up on the offers, this really opened my eyes on how you could do TP runs within Europe as well.
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
Enjoy!
Oct 17, 2019, 4:47 pm
#3020
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold / Hilton Diamond / IHG Diamond Ambassador / Marriot Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,536
Thank you everyone for really good suggestion. Even if I didn't take up on the offers, this really opened my eyes on how you could do TP runs within Europe as well.
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
In the end I decided to do 1 weekend trip to Sofia (via OTP):
and another weekend trip to Toulouse:
Total costs of £937 per person for 560 TP at £1.67/TP. With the Avios discounts we used this was about £450 at £.80/TP. Good enough for me especially considering we had such limited time available. Thanks again for everyone's input!
Oct 18, 2019, 3:40 am
#3021
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 133
I wonder if someone can help me - I'm trying to book the following itinerary:
SOF-LHR-JFK outbound 21st Oct (J/I)
JFK-MIA-UVF 20th Dec (S)
UVF-MIA 23rd Dec (Q)
MIA-LHR-SOF 23rd Dec (I/J)
I can price the SOF-JFK / MIA-SOF in business ($2400) and the JFK-UVF-MIA in economy separately ($740) but I'm trying to get the whole itinerary on the same ticket, but entering it in Matrix it won't find the fares. Any advice on how to get this to work (I'm worried about a tight connection time at MIA on the return) or to optimise this for further tier points?
Thanks in advance.
SOF-LHR-JFK outbound 21st Oct (J/I)
JFK-MIA-UVF 20th Dec (S)
UVF-MIA 23rd Dec (Q)
MIA-LHR-SOF 23rd Dec (I/J)
I can price the SOF-JFK / MIA-SOF in business ($2400) and the JFK-UVF-MIA in economy separately ($740) but I'm trying to get the whole itinerary on the same ticket, but entering it in Matrix it won't find the fares. Any advice on how to get this to work (I'm worried about a tight connection time at MIA on the return) or to optimise this for further tier points?
Thanks in advance.
Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 am
#3022
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: LDN / NY
Programs: BA GGL, Marriott Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 538
Has anyone found any inventive ways to go from NY to the West? I'll soon be based in NY, and am having trouble finding ways of getting far west (and south). Thinking San Fran, Vegas, Florida, Texas etc etc.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Oct 18, 2019, 4:39 am
#3023
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,294
Has anyone found any inventive ways to go from NY to the West? I'll soon be based in NY, and am having trouble finding ways of getting far west (and south). Thinking San Fran, Vegas, Florida, Texas etc etc.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Oct 18, 2019, 4:43 am
#3024
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: LDN / NY
Programs: BA GGL, Marriott Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 538
Yes I need to do a bit of research here. As you say, although I'll continue to stay BA Gold / OWE I know I can occasionally sneak into lounges (Admirals usually) by showing my First class ticket and OWE status, but not sure if reliably. However I think you can pay for straight up Admiral admission for $200 or something a year that I could likely use? TBD but not the end of the world if not, I'll just use priority pass.
I will still be travelling UK > NY 10+ times a year in premium Econ at least so can be sure to keep my BA Gold.
Last edited by jjLDNY; Oct 18, 2019 at 4:44 am Reason: quote
Oct 18, 2019, 6:37 am
#3025
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: DFW or GOT or...
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott GFL
Posts: 820
Purchase an annual Admirals Club membership. Options include individual and household memberships. Pricing vary based on your elite status with the AAdvantage frequent flyer programs. The cost ranges from $450 to $550 for individual memberships, and from $675 to $925 for household memberships, with renewals being $50 less expensive than new memberships.
Have a Citi / AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard. Cardholders receive a complimentary Admirals Club Membership that’s valid for the cardholder and two guests, or the cardholder and his or her immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18). Additional authorized cardholders also receive the same Admirals Club membership and guest access, and there is no additional charge to add an authorized user. There’s a $450 annual fee for this card.
Purchase an Admirals Club day pass. This is available at select locations for $59.
Have a Citi / AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard. Cardholders receive a complimentary Admirals Club Membership that’s valid for the cardholder and two guests, or the cardholder and his or her immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18). Additional authorized cardholders also receive the same Admirals Club membership and guest access, and there is no additional charge to add an authorized user. There’s a $450 annual fee for this card.
Purchase an Admirals Club day pass. This is available at select locations for $59.
Oct 18, 2019, 6:41 am
#3026
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
Has anyone found any inventive ways to go from NY to the West? I'll soon be based in NY, and am having trouble finding ways of getting far west (and south). Thinking San Fran, Vegas, Florida, Texas etc etc.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Currently for pleasure, as I'm almost year-end having got to BA Gold (just..) in 4 months, but looking to start pushing the AA program once I'm over there now I have lots of ways of maintaining gold through business travel.
Oct 18, 2019, 6:43 am
#3027
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
Purchase an annual Admirals Club membership. Options include individual and household memberships. Pricing vary based on your elite status with the AAdvantage frequent flyer programs. The cost ranges from $450 to $550 for individual memberships, and from $675 to $925 for household memberships, with renewals being $50 less expensive than new memberships.
Have a Citi / AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard. Cardholders receive a complimentary Admirals Club Membership that’s valid for the cardholder and two guests, or the cardholder and his or her immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18). Additional authorized cardholders also receive the same Admirals Club membership and guest access, and there is no additional charge to add an authorized user. There’s a $450 annual fee for this card.
Purchase an Admirals Club day pass. This is available at select locations for $59.
Have a Citi / AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard. Cardholders receive a complimentary Admirals Club Membership that’s valid for the cardholder and two guests, or the cardholder and his or her immediate family (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under 18). Additional authorized cardholders also receive the same Admirals Club membership and guest access, and there is no additional charge to add an authorized user. There’s a $450 annual fee for this card.
Purchase an Admirals Club day pass. This is available at select locations for $59.
You can renew silver every other year for about a grand so it's not as good of a value proposition as you make it IMO.
Oct 18, 2019, 6:55 am
#3028
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond *, IHG, Couples Romance Rewards
Posts: 2,351
Yes I need to do a bit of research here. As you say, although I'll continue to stay BA Gold / OWE I know I can occasionally sneak into lounges (Admirals usually) by showing my First class ticket and OWE status, but not sure if reliably. However I think you can pay for straight up Admiral admission for $200 or something a year that I could likely use? TBD but not the end of the world if not, I'll just use priority pass.
I will still be travelling UK > NY 10+ times a year in premium Econ at least so can be sure to keep my BA Gold.
I will still be travelling UK > NY 10+ times a year in premium Econ at least so can be sure to keep my BA Gold.
Oct 18, 2019, 10:11 am
#3029
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,113
I found a decent fare BRU-OTP and OTP-BRU.
Nesting two and doing B2B, for me there is not even the need of a night stay, so 480 TPs at around €1.81/TP or £1.56/TP and no side expenses.
Not the greatest ratio, but good when available time is limited.
Nesting two and doing B2B, for me there is not even the need of a night stay, so 480 TPs at around €1.81/TP or £1.56/TP and no side expenses.
Not the greatest ratio, but good when available time is limited.
Oct 18, 2019, 4:47 pm
#3030
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,549
Baec gold and silver always get into American lounges, both admirals and flagship. I've been in numerous times always on economy or premium economy. No need for a first class ticket