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w3andw4d Mar 24, 2019 7:49 am

Trying to upgrade the first sector (ABZ-LHR) of a MIA trip to CE and they are quoting me £94 increase in taxes and fees. It is an up-gradable booking class.
They say it's probably due to the the way the ticket has been set up with the next sector on American.

Does that seem correct?

KARFA Mar 24, 2019 8:53 am


Originally Posted by w3andw4d (Post 30923466)
Trying to upgrade the first sector (ABZ-LHR) of a MIA trip to CE and they are quoting me £94 increase in taxes and fees. It is an up-gradable booking class.
They say it's probably due to the the way the ticket has been set up with the next sector on American.

Does that seem correct?

is this an upgrade with avios? You can only do those on ba tickets so I am not sure why aa would have been setting anything up?

w3andw4d Mar 24, 2019 11:39 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 30923627)


is this an upgrade with avios? You can only do those on ba tickets so I am not sure why aa would have been setting anything up?

Yes, avios upgrade. BA ticket.
There is car hire and hotel attached to it. Previously, the difference in taxes was £13.

KARFA Mar 24, 2019 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by w3andw4d (Post 30924100)
Yes, avios upgrade. BA ticket.
There is car hire and hotel attached to it. Previously, the difference in taxes was £13.

£13 sounds right for just the domestic flight.

Is it possible carrier surcharge across the whole booking? UuA is a recalculation across the whole booking so any general increase would be captured by that.

botham Mar 27, 2019 6:52 am

My wife would like to visit Japan in April 2020.

I imagine Tokyo is nigh impossible for 2-4-1’s, so is there a potential alternative? I am keen on using the bullet trains.

pauldb Mar 27, 2019 7:17 am


Originally Posted by botham (Post 30934868)
My wife would like to visit Japan in April 2020.

I imagine Tokyo is nigh impossible for 2-4-1’s, so is there a potential alternative? I am keen on using the bullet trains.

I wouldn’t say any route is nigh impossible: two J seats will be there at 1am BST, T-355 - you can have to be the quickest to click through. Read the 241 thread if you aren’t clear on the (expanded) options for adding the inbound leg later.

KIX is the only alternative in combination with the train. PEK is typically easier to book, and worth mentioning as its in a closer band, saving you soon avios for the connection to Japan.

tatterdema Mar 30, 2019 2:16 pm

I cannot seem to find any place where it says the award chart for US-Mexico, does anyone know if it is the same as US-US? Looking specifically SEA-CUN on AS, and wondering if it is the same 12500 that an entirely US flight would be. It is about 2600 miles distance.

guv1976 Mar 30, 2019 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by tatterdema (Post 30946971)
I cannot seem to find any place where it says the award chart for US-Mexico, does anyone know if it is the same as US-US? Looking specifically SEA-CUN on AS, and wondering if it is the same 12500 that an entirely US flight would be. It is about 2600 miles distance.

It is the same. If it is a SEA-CUN nonstop or direct (through) flight, it will price at 12,500 Avios one way in Economy. If connecting flights are required, you will be charged for each flight flown, based on each flight's distance, subject to a minimum of 7,500 Avios per flight for travel within North America.

tatterdema Mar 30, 2019 4:38 pm


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 30947325)
It is the same. If it is a SEA-CUN nonstop or direct (through) flight, it will price at 12,500 Avios one way in Economy. If connecting flights are required, you will be charged for each flight flown, based on each flight's distance, subject to a minimum of 7,500 Avios per flight for travel within North America.

Great, thanks for the help. I thought that would be the case, but was not sure as every think I could find just said US flights, nothing about Mexico. I didn't want to call and go through all the hassle until it is time to book. AS is such a fantastic use of points a lot of times. I did not know that about direct flights, I have always just ruled them out. Gotta love flyertalk, learn something new every day.

transportprof Mar 31, 2019 11:28 am

Avios to IPC?
 
Has anyone succeeded in redeeming Avios to fly to Easter Island IPC? I could not find evidence of this after some searching around this forum.

IPC is a long term travel goal of mine, so I am very flexible on when and how to get there.

jerry a. laska Mar 31, 2019 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by transportprof (Post 30949394)
Has anyone succeeded in redeeming Avios to fly to Easter Island IPC? I could not find evidence of this after some searching around this forum.

IPC is a long term travel goal of mine, so I am very flexible on when and how to get there.

Finding award flights to IPC is difficult. Lots of demand for precious few flights/seats. That said a number of people have been successful using Avios or AAdvantage miles. Here are a few posts:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30846251-post15.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...y-avios-4.html
You might want to just purchase the SCL-IPC flights through LAN as the prices often can be reasonable.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ilability.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...?highlight=ipc

nearlyheadlessian Apr 2, 2019 7:51 am

I'm trying to wrap my head around upgrading with Avios. If I book CPH-LHR-DOH-SIN through Qatar Airways, with the CPH-LHR-DOH all on BA metal (but a QR.com booked ticket/QR fare), can I upgrade the BA components using Avios? And what about cash? Or is my only chance of doing so at the airport?

hjd36 Apr 2, 2019 9:11 am

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KARFA Apr 2, 2019 9:28 am


Originally Posted by nearlyheadlessian (Post 30956144)
I'm trying to wrap my head around upgrading with Avios. If I book CPH-LHR-DOH-SIN through Qatar Airways, with the CPH-LHR-DOH all on BA metal (but a QR.com booked ticket/QR fare), can I upgrade the BA components using Avios? And what about cash? Or is my only chance of doing so at the airport?

In terms of upgrading with avios it needs to be a BA 125-... ticket, So if you book with QR you can't do it. See this summary.


Upgrading Using Avios (UuA) & Gold Upgrade Vouchers (GUF)
A quick note on doing UuAs is that you can do these for exEU itineraries (or you can apply a GUF if you have any). The following restrictions for UuAs apply though:

Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
  • BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers :td:
  • Tickets issued on non-BA stock :td:
The rules have previously said that the TA has to issue the ticket in the country of your BAEC membership as well. However, apparently this is not enforced consistently so hopefully this shouldn't be an issue. See these two posts for more information on that point https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29280847-post33.html & https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29282377-post38.html

A BA Holiday booking (flights & hotel) is UuA'able and treated as a TA booking, so a booking including non BA flights could not be UuA'ed. Also a BA Holiday booking which was made using a TA can not be UuA'ed.

Note that even if booked direct with BA on a 125-... ticket you can't UuA BA marketed and AA operated flight. The BA flight must be both BA marketed and operated.

There is more information on UuA'ing TA bookings here.

zippyboarder Apr 2, 2019 6:19 pm

I have an Amex 2 4 1 voucher to use.

Can it be used on an open jaw ticket. I am wanting to go from INV-LHR-INN and return SZG-LGW + LHR-INV

I know it can´t be done online but can it be done by calling the call centre


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