Originally Posted by SKT-DK
(Post 30474998)
Given this is pure speculation based on rumours, there is hardly any point in having a "what if" thread like this, is there?
Without such conjecture, this forum might turn into the Mary Celeste of FT. Anyway, my source told me it was the RAF joining oneworld (great TP-run opportunities!), once the UK leaves the European Defence Agency post-Brexit. |
Originally Posted by rossmacd
(Post 30477798)
I agree that RAM could cover a big gap in the network, but I would argue more that central Continental Europe being the biggest gap for OW presently. Currently, we only have BA, IB and AY, which no one can argue that they have conveniently located hubs (LON/MAD/HEL) for intra-EU flying. It is a true shame that AB went under, since they did offer some possibilities.
Then again, the LH group pretty much have central Continental Europe sewn up, with prices to match. It would also seem like somewhat odd timing for IG, given Al-Baker's recent comments and the QR interest in IG - but his comments may well be hot air again. I think they'd be a more attractive proposition to an alliance a few years down the road when they are fully stocked with ex-QR Dreamliners and however many 737s they're receiving so that they are running a really extensive network both short and long haul. Joining an alliance might be one path to fuelling that growth, though maybe they fit OW Connect better for that. |
Originally Posted by etiene
(Post 30478802)
Fair point on the network, I don't think I see a likely solution to that in the present time though. IG seem to mostly be flying within Italy or long haul so wouldn't be the answer [at least at present]. There aren't really any other well placed Continental Europe options that aren't already part of ST or *A that I can think of...?
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Originally Posted by rossmacd
(Post 30478886)
And I fully agree with you :) I'm not sure what the solution would be right now to plug this particular gap. The only real non-aligned carriers in central Continental Europe right now are U2 and FR, and I don't see them willingly stepping forward to join the OW alliance. So I guess it is a case of dreaming that there is quite a significant gap, but with no real contender to fill said gap :(
On the other hand, that's a rather larger fleet than RJ boast. |
Originally Posted by rossmacd
(Post 30478886)
And I fully agree with you :) I'm not sure what the solution would be right now to plug this particular gap. The only real non-aligned carriers in central Continental Europe right now are U2 and FR, and I don't see them willingly stepping forward to join the OW alliance. So I guess it is a case of dreaming that there is quite a significant gap, but with no real contender to fill said gap :(
I'm sure that will happen any day now. |
Presumably another possibility could be Fiji Air joining as a full member, rather than a Connect partner...
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Surely emirates joining would be best. Biggest travel region being missed out with cheapest influence to low cost resources and fuel, especially with QR offering little ME.
QR been threatening to leave so long. They can go to skyteam. |
Malev really did fill a key hole in oneworld until they went belly up. The only independent carrier of any size in EE is AirSerbia which is an Etihad partner. Everyone else is either Star Alliance (Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, LOT Polish, Croatian, Adria (Slovenia), Aegean, Turkish) or SkyTeam (Tarom Romanian, Czech, Alitalia)
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So after the announcement is there some humble pie to be eaten?
https://www.oneworld.com/news-inform..._col_count%3D7 |
I saw once that RAM/AT had a flight from Casablance to IAD, which might tempt me to try something different. But the sloping seat in their Business is a bit of a downer. But ex-LGW might just compensate!
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Good news despite the limited network and so so quality. Might also lead ba to open a route to cmn |
Originally Posted by eefor jfp
(Post 30479529)
Malev really did fill a key hole in oneworld until they went belly up. The only independent carrier of any size in EE is AirSerbia which is an Etihad partner. Everyone else is either Star Alliance (Lufthansa, Swiss, Austrian, LOT Polish, Croatian, Adria (Slovenia), Aegean, Turkish) or SkyTeam (Tarom Romanian, Czech, Alitalia)
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Originally Posted by mda03jb
(Post 30476391)
I wouldn’t be in a rush to use RAM regardless of TP’s! An NGO I do volunteer work with in Africa forbid their staff/volunteers using them (the only airline with such a restriction) as they’ve had so many issues with lost/delayed bags, poorly handled missed connections etc. |
Originally Posted by TedToToe
(Post 30502730)
I’ve read elsewhere that LOT isn’t entirely happy in Star. Could they be persuaded to jump ship? |
Originally Posted by SKT-DK
(Post 30474998)
Given this is pure speculation based on rumours, there is hardly any point in having a "what if" thread like this, is there?
:) |
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