BA's lack of cyberflashing policy
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BA's lack of cyberflashing policy
Well, you learn a new word every day, I didn't realise that cyberflashing was a thing but apparently it is a thing enough that a word has been created, which is sad. Inappropriate or unsolicited Bluetooth transfer would have been what I would have called it.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0dbe871aa2d73
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b0dbe871aa2d73
A couple who were sent unsolicited dick pics by a fellow passenger on a British Airways plane, as they sat with their six-year-old daughter waiting for take-off, have criticised the airlines response.
Whilst it's annoying that someone else on that aircraft instigated this act, it does seem that BA is being unfairly called out here. How many other airlines have a cyberflashing policy? Some awareness and guidance for staff might be useful, but if you leave your personal device open for incoming Bluetooth transfers (airdrop in the iOS world) in a public place on public transport then you probably have to accept some personal responsibility...
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This is just malicious and disturbed behaviour pure and simple.
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why did they open up their bluetooth availability? mine is always shut - or if on, it's for contacts only
and how is BA responsible?
this is like if one gets sent porn mail and blames the postman.
and how is BA responsible?
this is like if one gets sent porn mail and blames the postman.
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I can see both sides here. In my opinion, BA is not responsible for people leaving their devices open and therefore enabling this nasty practice. However, they should have a policy for dealing with it, just as with any other forms of antisocial behaviour on board. Quite how they would do that escapes me though, since the perpetrator isn't obvious.
I wouldn't care to sit for hours in the vicinity of someone who sent me dick pics, even if I had inadvertently left my BT open.
I wouldn't care to sit for hours in the vicinity of someone who sent me dick pics, even if I had inadvertently left my BT open.
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Anyway I frankly think this is a non-problem. A bit of awareness and if you are so terrified by a dick picture you should be in the know of BASIC things to do in order to secure your devices. I really can't see what role should an airline company play here.
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Yes totally BA's fault that people leave their phones open in such a way. The bloke who did it is a cretin but it's in no way BA's fault.
I see the angle of the entire article is broadly in line with huff posts exemplary, non agenda, reporting.
I see the angle of the entire article is broadly in line with huff posts exemplary, non agenda, reporting.

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To be clear I personally did not suggest BA was accountable / at fault here. I merely objected to the idea that it was ever somehow the recipient's problem. Preventative measure better taken than not, agreed, but that is the nature of all attacks on the vulnerable - no-one WANTS to be attacked. And in hindsight I am sure they'd rather measures had been taken. So one has to assume there's a reasonable reason for why they weren't.
We have had a spate of car breakins in my area that appear to have been the result of some little cretin 'cloning' the bippers remotely. So while the antidote for that seems to be to revert to manually locking the car centrally with one's keys at night, it's no substitute for these people deciding NOT to do bad things I am afraid.
We have had a spate of car breakins in my area that appear to have been the result of some little cretin 'cloning' the bippers remotely. So while the antidote for that seems to be to revert to manually locking the car centrally with one's keys at night, it's no substitute for these people deciding NOT to do bad things I am afraid.
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I've never used airdrop before but how does she want them to police this? Make everyone hand in their iphones as they board?
Unless the person who is sending the 'd*** pics' is stupid enough to have their iphone name as 'seat 17a's-iphone' or 'joe boggs-iphone', they won't know who's it is and chances are they aren't going to detain everyone on the plane to find out.
Unless the person who is sending the 'd*** pics' is stupid enough to have their iphone name as 'seat 17a's-iphone' or 'joe boggs-iphone', they won't know who's it is and chances are they aren't going to detain everyone on the plane to find out.
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Im afraid its situations like this where the modern penchant for creating policies to cover every eventuality has almost zero effect.
it would be very easy for BA to create a policy which says that it treats cyberflashing the same as actual exposure. An admirable and probably expected approach.
So, they now have a policy. What do they do with it? Confiscate every passenger and staff members (pardon the pun) mobile devices? There is practically nothing they can do, other than report it to police on the ground.
But they have a policy...
it would be very easy for BA to create a policy which says that it treats cyberflashing the same as actual exposure. An admirable and probably expected approach.
So, they now have a policy. What do they do with it? Confiscate every passenger and staff members (pardon the pun) mobile devices? There is practically nothing they can do, other than report it to police on the ground.
But they have a policy...