What circumstances causes seat reallocation? (excluding aircraft change)
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What circumstances causes seat reallocation? (excluding aircraft change)
Flying to ATH end of the month and they have moved myself and Mrs Leaping_Deere out of exit row seats.
On the return leg the exit row seats were not available, but I put that down to already allocated but now both legs they are unavailable.
The extra leg room is nice on a longer short haul but hey-ho life goes on.
Im not overly concerned, just curious. It was a gold priority reward booking, so would that make the difference? I cant (by my rank amateur search) see a aircraft change either.
On the return leg the exit row seats were not available, but I put that down to already allocated but now both legs they are unavailable.
The extra leg room is nice on a longer short haul but hey-ho life goes on.
Im not overly concerned, just curious. It was a gold priority reward booking, so would that make the difference? I cant (by my rank amateur search) see a aircraft change either.
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GPR would not be the cause, Amadeus Seating is post-facto the ticket payment type.
Are you certain there has been no moves of equipment, even if temporary? No curtain moves? Expertfyer will indicate if a seat is blocked or occupied, is that how you know they are "unavailable"? The reason I quiery it is that if the aircraft stayed as an A320 (say) and the CE curtain didn't move then usually your seat won't move either. Equipment changes and curtain movements are the main reasons usually for seat shifting, equipment failure (seat malfunction) would appear from T-72 hours. If there were toddlers on the booking then that can also cause seat movement due to the presence or otherwise of the additional air mask. The only exception I can think of in this space is if you lost Gold status and went down to Silver, loss of exit row would often ensue.
Are you certain there has been no moves of equipment, even if temporary? No curtain moves? Expertfyer will indicate if a seat is blocked or occupied, is that how you know they are "unavailable"? The reason I quiery it is that if the aircraft stayed as an A320 (say) and the CE curtain didn't move then usually your seat won't move either. Equipment changes and curtain movements are the main reasons usually for seat shifting, equipment failure (seat malfunction) would appear from T-72 hours. If there were toddlers on the booking then that can also cause seat movement due to the presence or otherwise of the additional air mask. The only exception I can think of in this space is if you lost Gold status and went down to Silver, loss of exit row would often ensue.
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Is this a case of the curtain moving back? Or maybe BA is blocking an additional first few rows of Economy as they expect that there will be more demand for Club.
If you're keen on seeing if the seats become available again (probably 3 days before departure), it's probably worth taking out a subscription to ExpertFlyer and it will look out for the seats becoming available again in the future.
If you share the exact flight details (Flight number and date), I could have a look on EF for you.
If you're keen on seeing if the seats become available again (probably 3 days before departure), it's probably worth taking out a subscription to ExpertFlyer and it will look out for the seats becoming available again in the future.
If you share the exact flight details (Flight number and date), I could have a look on EF for you.
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GPR would not be the cause, Amadeus Seating is post-facto the ticket payment type.
Are you certain there has been no moves of equipment, even if temporary? No curtain moves? Expertfyer will indicate if a seat is blocked or occupied, is that how you know they are "unavailable"? The reason I quiery it is that if the aircraft stayed as an A320 (say) and the CE curtain didn't move then usually your seat won't move either. Equipment changes and curtain movements are the main reasons usually for seat shifting, equipment failure (seat malfunction) would appear from T-72 hours. If there were toddlers on the booking then that can also cause seat movement due to the presence or otherwise of the additional air mask. The only exception I can think of in this space is if you lost Gold status and went down to Silver, loss of exit row would often ensue.
Are you certain there has been no moves of equipment, even if temporary? No curtain moves? Expertfyer will indicate if a seat is blocked or occupied, is that how you know they are "unavailable"? The reason I quiery it is that if the aircraft stayed as an A320 (say) and the CE curtain didn't move then usually your seat won't move either. Equipment changes and curtain movements are the main reasons usually for seat shifting, equipment failure (seat malfunction) would appear from T-72 hours. If there were toddlers on the booking then that can also cause seat movement due to the presence or otherwise of the additional air mask. The only exception I can think of in this space is if you lost Gold status and went down to Silver, loss of exit row would often ensue.
Curtains move sounds most likely? never considered ATH a CE heavy route, does it get alot of connections from TATL Mr wikiba CWS ?
I'm not demoted yet I am going down to pleb status with TK, perhaps they told BA
BA640 27/07 outbound
BA639 28/07 inbound
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If there are heavy sales in the next week or so, it may end up as an A321 service.
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N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 which I interpret as meaning that BA could continue to sell (relatively expensive) seats in both classes and will see how that pans out over the next couple of weeks.
The Club cabin has a lot of seats allocated, but nothing in Rows 1 & 2 (I am guessing Gold Block) and nothing in Rows 10-12 (I assume because these rows have just become available - but they're not blocked which I assume means that they could be booked by Club passengers, making a curtain move back to Row 9 less likely.
For the inbound, it's J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H6 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 so BA's not looking to sell any more Club tickets, but Economy is open for a few more sales.
Again, An A320, Club to Row 12, nobody in Rows 1-3 but a lot of the Row 10-12 seats are already allocated so there really won't be a curtain move further forward!
Hope that helps... and I was hoping throughout that I wouldn't be beaten to the answer by C-W-S but he is an enigma wrapped in a paradox and clearly types quicker than I do
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BA have developed in the last few years a bit of a niche market for USA/Canada<->Greece travel. Someone in BA said that a couple of years ago there was quite a lot of media exposure in North America to Greece as a holiday destination and BA have tapped into that, hence the expansion of Greek services from LHR.