LTN Phobia

Yours sounds rather entirely legitimate and endorsed by BA.

Despite my familiarity with T5 I still wouldn't like to be stuck behind the security queue if I only had 15 minutes to get to B gate given the occasionally sparse shuttle availability, and your open response and taking personal responsibility for cutting it fine is rather refreshing!

It's the breakfast one that is a little more concerning though...

Pascoe

I would do it if I genuinely thought it would make the difference between my making and missing a flight. But only under that specific circumstance, and with plenty of apologies etc.

My only experiences of TFW lately are all seeing me arriving super early and flying through. I took a few snaps last time out of a literally deserted T5 - no-one in the F lounge, no-one in the tunnel / train, no-one in B gates lounge etc etc. It was a bit eery actually.

FlyerTalker70

Having flown from LHR, LGW and GLA last year, I'll take TSA style security over UK airport security any day of the week! What the TSA lacks in politeness they more than make up for in speed of service (except for EWR but that's a story for another day). I was surprised that you had to put liquids in a see-through baggie in the UK (never had to do that in Canada/USA).

Safe Travels,

James

KARFA

?

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

even with tsa pre (there isn't any equivalent in the UK so can't really compare it) you are still supposed to have them in a bag, but you don't have to remove them.

in terms of speed, some airports in the US may be ok, but the premium line at JFK T8 is not. fortunately with tsapre i am not in that line anymore.

FlyerTalker70

Just to clarify I have liquids in a bag (Air NewZealand faux wool amenity bag). The point I'm making is that whilst in the UK they insisted I remove it from that bag and place it into a clear plastic baggie they have. Nowhere in the TSA rules does it specify that the bag must be see-through (just that it's a resealable quart sized bag).

Agree with you that there are some problem spots at US airports even if you have TSA-pre and priority security from FFP. However, there are usually ways to bypass the queue. In particular, using a different checkpoint at the airport then walking airside to the concourse/terminal you need to get to. Might sound silly wasting 10-20 minutes walking from concourse to concourse but when you've got a 60 minute queue at a TSA pre line it doesn't sound like such a bad idea.

That being said, CAI is probably the craziest queue for security. It took me 90 minutes to get through the first checkpoint using Star Alliance Gold Track security followed by another security check before boarding gate for good measure. Also if I recall correctly, JKT has three security checkpoints you must pass through one during check in, one in the departure hall and one at the boarding gate area (at least they were efficient at each one).

Safe Travels,

James

Globaliser

Everywhere that I regularly go, the bag is required to be transparent. To make sure I haven't accidentally lost track of something, I've just checked the rules for Australia, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Singapore, South Africa and the UK.

T8191

As I don't travel with liquids, I've never had this problem ... until one occasion at LGW, when my disposable lighter was removed from my back-pack by the G4S agent at screening and placed gently in a clear bag. Of course, it contains a small quantity of liquefied gas. Only time anyone has bothered with that, anywhere!

jfallesen

I really do not understand why they do not put up posters asking people to not pack their stuff at the belts and/or ask people not to do so. Some airports around the world do both and it really works.

jfallesen

I don't quite agree with that. I have often seen passengers who clearly seem to have no idea what is going on – suspect them to be people who are very far from frequent flyers but who have treated themselves to a First experience for the first time (sorry, pun not really intended). While it can be annoying when you are starving and/or running a bit late, I am sure these people will probably be way more excited about the upcoming trip than any of us are. :-)

KARFA

there are notices to that effect on the lanes in normal and fast track at T5, but not in TFW

mickeyjaw

A true FTer would know that if the lift doors open to floor -2 and the transit shuttle isn't already in the station then it's quicker to stay in the lift, hit the -4 button and walk briskly along the travellators in the underground walkway...

Pascoe

It has travelators down there? I always thought you just had to use Shanks' Pony

BertieBadger

Travelators if heading towards B/C. Sometimes working ones

Aforementioned pony if heading back to A.

UKtravelbear

We even have a guide on how to do it and approximate times - it's in the dash board.

There are also signs down there posted by HAL giving the same timing indications.

Fitch

They'a bit weird though - short and humped. More for variety than efficient forward motion...