Passengers sat in crew seats LHR-LAS
Mar 17, 2018, 8:26 am
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My mum used to work for Pan Am and United as a PA. When we did the staff travel thing, one of us would end up in a jump seat pretty regularly as a standby ticket. None of us were what you would call “trained” for that seat! That was the 90s though...
Mar 17, 2018, 11:38 am
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Staff standby can be extremely useful on routes like JFK, IAD etc.
Mar 17, 2018, 12:58 pm
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Anyone that the Captain feels is competent can sit in a cabin jumpseats, staff, family or commercial customers.
Only qualified flight crew, cabin crew and licensed engineers can sit in the flight deck.
Only qualified flight crew, cabin crew and licensed engineers can sit in the flight deck.
Mar 17, 2018, 1:28 pm
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One issue we had in F on a 747 back from MIA may have been to do with a staff member in the jump seat just behind F. He was frozen by the doors, with blankets over him, and I think the crew may have cranked up the heat because in the F cabin it was absolutely roasting hot. Tricky one, because he looked like he was shivering, so I can't think of any other way around it, but it made for a very uncomfortable flight.
Mar 17, 2018, 3:38 pm
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Actually quite a few more others can sit on a flight deck Jumpseat under certain circumstances. Anyone who occupies a flight deck jumpseat, or in fact any jumpseat can only do so with the authority of the aircraft commander. Engineers are not routinely considered for FD Jumpseats only flight and cabin crew.
Mar 17, 2018, 4:01 pm
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I once saw a very high level FAA official take a cockpit jumpseat on at TATL segment operated by a USA carrier. He was assigned the IFC seat next to me
and we chatted a bit during meals, but he spent most of the time up with the pilots.
AFAIK on USA carriers, the rule is that cabin jumpseat riders must be qualified to help with emergency evacuations, hence the "currently employed as a crew member on the carrier operating the flight" general rule.
AFAIK on USA carriers, the rule is that cabin jumpseat riders must be qualified to help with emergency evacuations, hence the "currently employed as a crew member on the carrier operating the flight" general rule.
Mar 17, 2018, 4:27 pm
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Actually quite a few more others can sit on a flight deck Jumpseat under certain circumstances. Anyone who occupies a flight deck jumpseat, or in fact any jumpseat can only do so with the authority of the aircraft commander. Engineers are not routinely considered for FD Jumpseats only flight and cabin crew.
Mar 17, 2018, 8:50 pm
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Staff/relatives of Staff on Staff Travel.
Think the skipper has the final say on who sits in the jumpseats or even if anyone will be able to.... it’s a choice (not our first, obviously) but no one really unknowingly ends up in the jump seat, you say if you are willing to take one or not.
I can firmly say after taking a jump seat from SYD to SIN with the promise of my nice seat from SIN to LHR but ending up on the jumpseat the whole way, I’d only to too glad to be stuck somewhere days on end than take the jumpseat again.
They really are only designed for short periods of time... although the “experience” made me eternally grateful for 53E on a 747
Think the skipper has the final say on who sits in the jumpseats or even if anyone will be able to.... it’s a choice (not our first, obviously) but no one really unknowingly ends up in the jump seat, you say if you are willing to take one or not.
I can firmly say after taking a jump seat from SYD to SIN with the promise of my nice seat from SIN to LHR but ending up on the jumpseat the whole way, I’d only to too glad to be stuck somewhere days on end than take the jumpseat again.
They really are only designed for short periods of time... although the “experience” made me eternally grateful for 53E on a 747
Mar 17, 2018, 10:47 pm
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The Customer Service Policy Manual lists everyone who is entitled to a flight deck jumpseats and you are correct in that engineers are not in that list. However there is provision for authorisation to be given by the CAA or the Director o Flight Operations to allow anyone not listed in the CSPM.
Last edited by Waterhorse; Mar 18, 2018 at 12:23 am
Nov 12, 2018, 10:19 am
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I vacated my seat in a full 747 back from Vancouver to take a Crew jumpseat as my neighbour in 1K was the victim of a seat that was stuck in a reclined position at 20 mins to landing. She was highly embarrassed and was a person of size (if that is the right way to express it) so rather than boot her out or play cabin Tetris I thought it would be easier to offer her my seat and for me to take a jumpseat. CSD agreed in a flash so I swapped 1A for 2L with a few odd looks from the WT+ passengers as I was escorted out.
Fun for 20 minutes but the thought of spending the whole flight there is no fun at all.
Fun for 20 minutes but the thought of spending the whole flight there is no fun at all.
Last edited by Robespierre; Nov 12, 2018 at 10:38 am
Nov 12, 2018, 11:06 am
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When I flew back from Miami I think year before last it was right before the hurricane hit and I was on the upper deck and the jump seats at the top of the stairs and the ones in the middle of the upper deck where taken by passengers who turned out to be BA staff who had been told to take the flight home as they expected cancellations in comming days due to the hurricane. (I.E they where using them for crew movements)