LinkedIn search by "Flight Crew"
#16
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
This is not a privacy discussion. It is not as though BA hacked OP's accounts or gained access through some deception. Rather, OP chooses to maintain a public LinkedIn profile which contains as much information as he chooses to make public. That information is there for his friends, colleagues, recruiters, and stalkers alike.
#17
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
Posts: 1,846
Oh dear, I have opened a can of worms…
OAuth2 is fine, from a technological perspective of not revealing login credentials to other sites. My beef is with how so many services now have disabled (or made very hard to find) their own traditional email-based logins, in favour of supporting OAuth from the major social networks. The result is that a) those social networks have an even better profile of your online activities, in terms of other sites you use; and b) often, though not always, the requesting site will also want access to a greater or lesser amount of your social network data as part of the authentication process.
The social networks make many of these features easy/convenient for developers and users for a single purpose: to tie you into their ecosystems. OAuth logins from social networks are like cuckoos eggs, in that respect.As news publishers are finding out with Facebook's recent feed changes, that leaves you at their mercy.
But my specific concern about KLM's thing was more from the perspective of "I don't want other people on my flight to know all about me and contact me via Facebook". I wouldn't want others to know all about me on a bus, if I share that journey with them, so why a plane…? The feature is actually called "Meet & Seat" and seemingly is still available.
The social networks make many of these features easy/convenient for developers and users for a single purpose: to tie you into their ecosystems. OAuth logins from social networks are like cuckoos eggs, in that respect.As news publishers are finding out with Facebook's recent feed changes, that leaves you at their mercy.
But my specific concern about KLM's thing was more from the perspective of "I don't want other people on my flight to know all about me and contact me via Facebook". I wouldn't want others to know all about me on a bus, if I share that journey with them, so why a plane…? The feature is actually called "Meet & Seat" and seemingly is still available.
#18
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 85
This is what you use your otherwise unused google plus account for, just log into everything which needs OAuth2 using google plus and you'll never see it unless you're one of the 8 people still using it...and the sites get their pound of flesh-flavoured data.
#19
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Brexile in ADB
Programs: BA, TK, HHonours, Le Club, Best Western Rewards
Posts: 7,067
I don't use Google logged in and don't use Gmail other than for an 'anonymous' email I give to websites who I don't want to know my real email.
I do however fully accept that such protections serve very little purpose in the grand scheme of things as my data is basically all out there and all tracked in a million different ways anyway. Not to mention my real email was leaked in that enormous Experian leak so is available for all to see. But at least I take comfort in not being on twitter. Unfortunately I am on Linkedin, the creepiest of all the sites.
I do however fully accept that such protections serve very little purpose in the grand scheme of things as my data is basically all out there and all tracked in a million different ways anyway. Not to mention my real email was leaked in that enormous Experian leak so is available for all to see. But at least I take comfort in not being on twitter. Unfortunately I am on Linkedin, the creepiest of all the sites.
#20
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Brighton. UK
Programs: BA Gold / VS /IHG Diamond & Ambassador
Posts: 14,197
Slighty OT but I have a tertiary email address (which does not include any part of my name) that I use for when I am asked for an email address to use wifi.
#21
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Berkshire / London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Nandos
Posts: 1,009
Depends what the demo target is containing. Although I still get freaked out when I get served an extremely on point ad - and i work in ad sales
#22
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Cambridgeshire, UK
Programs: BA, QF, Avis, Marriott
Posts: 33
Obviously without masking the first vowel in the first word. I then use similarly rude and faked names if required to provide more details to 'register'. I do this because I like to send a message to the service provider, since some providers who require you to register will think nothing of on-selling your name and email address.
Where I come unstuck is when they need to email me a code for me to complete registration and go online, but thankfully in my experience most do not.
#23
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
#25
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
I can certainly agree with this as I don't "do" any form of social media. I hadn't realised that some sites were requesting access beyond that to establish identity. A bit naughty.... Must add Oauth2 onto the reading list and dig into the details more. And remind myself of the maxim with all such social media services that if you don't know what the product is, then it's you
#26
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
No issue on your general approach but maybe better to stick to domains that are specifically set aside as non-registerable, e.g. [email protected]?
#27
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sydney Australia
Programs: No programs & No Points!!!
Posts: 14,222
I use a made-up email address: f*[email protected] or [email protected] or similar.
Obviously without masking the first vowel in the first word. I then use similarly rude and faked names if required to provide more details to 'register'. I do this because I like to send a message to the service provider, since some providers who require you to register will think nothing of on-selling your name and email address.
Where I come unstuck is when they need to email me a code for me to complete registration and go online, but thankfully in my experience most do not.
Obviously without masking the first vowel in the first word. I then use similarly rude and faked names if required to provide more details to 'register'. I do this because I like to send a message to the service provider, since some providers who require you to register will think nothing of on-selling your name and email address.
Where I come unstuck is when they need to email me a code for me to complete registration and go online, but thankfully in my experience most do not.
During the Seinfeld era it was. Nosoupforyou@
#28
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
Posts: 1,846
I can certainly agree with this as I don't "do" any form of social media. I hadn't realised that some sites were requesting access beyond that to establish identity. A bit naughty.... Must add Oauth2 onto the reading list and dig into the details more. And remind myself of the maxim with all such social media services that if you don't know what the product is, then it's you
More commonly, as seen on Quora, it's "just" a way of easing the sign on process for users so they don't have to remember emails/logins. But it ends up linking the data you put in different places to a single 'persona' and a lot of people don't realise the effect of this in terms of triangulating information about them, and sharing it with many companies etc. you otherwise wouldn't be comfortable sharing with (to say nothing of stalkers).
Anyhow, I'm very happy to make friends on flights - just not for that kind of matching to be done a) in advance of travelling and b) via Facebook…
#29
Join Date: Jul 2014
Programs: Mucci de l'Arbitrage
Posts: 927
In LinkedIn's "search appearance" list I saw that someone with job of "flight crew" had found me, as well as the regular collection of searches by recruiters, etc. I'm assuming it was a direct search as there wouldn't be much professional overlap in other searches.
Is that a part of standard procedure for some pre-flight reason (unlikely - only a single occurence that I can see for many recent flights), or a bit of post-flight stalking ?
Is that a part of standard procedure for some pre-flight reason (unlikely - only a single occurence that I can see for many recent flights), or a bit of post-flight stalking ?
Or you may have been hit on after a flight, though in that case you would probably recognize the crew member from their pic