Vueling at LHR rant and question for those in the know.
Nov 3, 2017, 1:16 pm
#31
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I've done 23 flights on VY this year, and (a) I wouldn't do this if it was that bad and (b) I honestly don't believe I'm misleading anyone. However it is not AA First, it is certainly tight, and I accept you have reached a different opinion. I am, however 1 cm shorter than you, maybe that makes all the difference
Nov 3, 2017, 1:25 pm
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At least they now are running Avios. They are useful as are all Low Cost for flying between the places that no one else does. My Best Friend flies ALC - NTE with them. No one else flies that route. They pay about 40 each way. As he says "it's a seat, and I've been on worse".
Nov 3, 2017, 1:34 pm
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There are 180 seats on a VY A320. Easyjet has 186 on their A320s, in the new refit version, however their seats are a bit thinner. BA is 168 to 177 seats but on the lower numbered version there are bigger galleys/storage areas. AirBaltic and W!zz would be my candidates for worse seating.
Nov 3, 2017, 1:44 pm
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Worse for what, Sweetheart? I'm not in a position to judge legroom as I remember the days of charter flying and 119 (I think) on a BAC1-11 500
Nov 3, 2017, 1:47 pm
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The JB was founded on and expanded from the underlying principles arising from joint membership of the same alliance. It would be very difficult if not impossible for the JB to happen without OW.
Nov 3, 2017, 2:06 pm
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Well journey done. Fast track was an issue as mentioned above. There was a Priority lane at the gate and we seemed to be the only people in it. Still took 15 mins as the Priority guy was checking in some Americans and their luggage. No status related Priority boarding. Seat pitch wasnt good and BOB seemed haphazard but choice was good. Luggage still taking forever to arrive but not the worst experience in the world. Acceptable for short flights. BUT we used Avios so cost was not a factor. As I said it was all about schedule. Might be sweetened if it was less cash than a BA flight.
Nov 3, 2017, 2:14 pm
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I've used Vueling exactly once. The leg room was the worst on any airline I've ever flown on and have no intention of going anywhere near them again. An unfortunate side effect of that is that I have to try & avoid meetings in Barcelona but that's life.
Nov 13, 2017, 8:03 am
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I am sure I've mentioned it a few times here already but if this was a BA codeshared flight Vueling may be a good option: you do get seat selection in advance (so long as it is a location with online check-in) and further more it is towards the front of the aircraft. Single travellers can usually work out ways to keep the middle seat empty, since VY load from the back for 90% of their customers. Best to use the App but try to do it 3 days or so before departure.
Nov 13, 2017, 8:07 am
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It does, but you need to use the VY app. Use the BA PNR and VY magically converts it to the VY PNR (make a note of it while you are there) and you should get both seat selection and OLCI via the VY App.
Nov 13, 2017, 8:36 am
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Everyone wants to pay for Norwegian's rock bottom service and receive EK's Apartment.
Cheaper is easy to determine. Value is not and it is personal to the passenger.
WAPA - "Want Apartment - Pay for Apartment"
Cheaper is easy to determine. Value is not and it is personal to the passenger.
WAPA - "Want Apartment - Pay for Apartment"
Nov 13, 2017, 4:41 pm
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Thai -> Thai Smile
Qantas -> Jetstar
Lufthansa -> Eurowings
Singapore Airlines -> Silkair
BA/IB -> Vueling
Swiss -> Helvetic/Edelweiss
KLM/AF -> Transavia
On Jetstar, you get some Qantas status benefits, and earning on some fares.
On Eurowings, you get some LH group Miles and More status benefits and earning.
On Silkair, you get some KrisFlyer status benefits and earning.
Not sure about Thai Smile or Helvetic or Transavia but suspect it may be similar.
Star Alliance is going to roll out its associate member scheme for LCC subsidiaries of its member carriers, which will allow some status benefits and earning capability on through ticketed itineraries.
IAG is missing a trick here. It's understandable Vueling, Are Lingus, Level not being in OW (though I see that's annoying to other OW flyers) - IAG would see benefits from acknowledging frequent flyers within IAG group airlines - such as offering common Avios earning to all IAG FFP programmes, and offering the operating carrier's usual status benefits (which obviously won't be the same across non-OW subsidiaries) to all IAG elites. Otherwise, why should any BA/IB regular flyer book Vueling or Aer Lingus, and why should any Vueling regular flyer book BA?
Qantas -> Jetstar
Lufthansa -> Eurowings
Singapore Airlines -> Silkair
BA/IB -> Vueling
Swiss -> Helvetic/Edelweiss
KLM/AF -> Transavia
On Jetstar, you get some Qantas status benefits, and earning on some fares.
On Eurowings, you get some LH group Miles and More status benefits and earning.
On Silkair, you get some KrisFlyer status benefits and earning.
Not sure about Thai Smile or Helvetic or Transavia but suspect it may be similar.
Star Alliance is going to roll out its associate member scheme for LCC subsidiaries of its member carriers, which will allow some status benefits and earning capability on through ticketed itineraries.
IAG is missing a trick here. It's understandable Vueling, Are Lingus, Level not being in OW (though I see that's annoying to other OW flyers) - IAG would see benefits from acknowledging frequent flyers within IAG group airlines - such as offering common Avios earning to all IAG FFP programmes, and offering the operating carrier's usual status benefits (which obviously won't be the same across non-OW subsidiaries) to all IAG elites. Otherwise, why should any BA/IB regular flyer book Vueling or Aer Lingus, and why should any Vueling regular flyer book BA?