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Old Oct 29, 2017, 9:41 am
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I've mentioned the idea of a CCR DO a couple of times, and there seems to be interest in the idea.

Doing a B2B would be the best way to all meet up, and a trip to AMS or elsewhere could be done in a morning.

Would CCR holders rather have a DO during the WEEK or WEEKEND? Please mark your preference below:

WEEKDAY
hsmall
Upupintheair
crazyarmadillo +1 (also CCR holder)

WEEKEND
msm2000uk
brightstar100
TravellerFrequently+1 (also CCR holder)
nufnuf77
crazyarmadillo
fitch
onobond
KARFA
pjh981
oxtailsoup


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Old Oct 26, 2017, 2:15 am
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Join Date: Jun 2015
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Originally Posted by Filthy Monkey
Next Friday - 3rd
Ah pity, flying out on Monday, have fun!
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
Added.... it was compiled in under 10 mins
i just saw your post..... made me smile... your new job now is to tell us how many CCRs there are
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by crazyarmadillo
i just saw your post..... made me smile... your new job now is to tell us how many CCRs there are
1 in London, 1 in NY ... what about Singapore, DC, Dubai...?
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by Jagboi
Where I am, 2 CW trips a month to LHR would come to about $150,000 a year in airfare. That airfare cost is the same as the income necessary to put you in the top 2% of Canadians (to be in the top 1% you need to make over $191,000), so to be able to direct that much after tax income to airfare means you are more likely in the top 0.5% of Canadians.
The income demographics for the UK aren't significantly better, but the opportunities for cheap TP acqisition are - or at least, non-stop LHR-YYZ in either direction isn't the most cost-effective way of acquiring them.

A realistic minimum for a CCR holder who doesn't get there primarily from TP runs would be £15-20k of spend, based on £3/TP and a monthly ex-EU to the Far East on QR/AY, etc. with some short-haul flying.

Obviously IST-LON-JFK-LAX-HNL or FRA-DOH-CMB-CGK will offer significantly better earning opportunities and would make it realistic to do it with well under £10k of TP runs. Even a YYZ-based traveller doing YYZ-JFK-LAX can probably manage 320TP for £1,200 or so without TP running, just being focused on a TP-effective routing and loyalty to the alliance. 15 of those plus a round trip to London (with a connection) would get you CCR for under £20k.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 6:48 am
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me too
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by GavB
me too
Hello stranger, welcome back ^
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 8:54 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by jason8612
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 9:49 am
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And me.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 9:52 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:14 am
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by xenole
Up to a year or two ago, you could have done
practically 4 x 1200 TP runs to get there for under £3k.
Some could. Not out of the US without really trying hard to originate all your trips from Europe. Having done it through a relocation over here I can safely say it took a good deal of planning. But yes, those were the days

Originally Posted by Cymro
The income demographics for the UK aren't significantly better, but the opportunities for cheap TP acqisition are - or at least, non-stop LHR-YYZ in either direction isn't the most cost-effective way of acquiring them.

A realistic minimum for a CCR holder who doesn't get there primarily from TP runs would be £15-20k of spend, based on £3/TP and a monthly ex-EU to the Far East on QR/AY, etc. with some short-haul flying.

Obviously IST-LON-JFK-LAX-HNL or FRA-DOH-CMB-CGK will offer significantly better earning opportunities and would make it realistic to do it with well under £10k of TP runs. Even a YYZ-based traveller doing YYZ-JFK-LAX can probably manage 320TP for £1,200 or so without TP running, just being focused on a TP-effective routing and loyalty to the alliance. 15 of those plus a round trip to London (with a connection) would get you CCR for under £20k.
That sounds about right - 15 to 20k. In the end I requalled this year and did it with six judiciously optimised long haul trips to the US and APAC, TPs ranging overall between 600 and 800, say, and a boatload of SH flying. This is where, incidentally, it makes sense for me to optimize/maximize. I am in the CCR a great deal on short haul and appreciate the ability to be there, very much. I wasn't looking at doing it again, but a couple of trips came up and I was able to set them up to get enough to make it work, with a bit to spare. All ex-EU to be sure - it helps to have offices in Sweden, Germany, Ireland, Italy etc etc, so I always line up a rider trip onto my long haul - but nowhere near bottom price.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:25 am
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64 out of 450 CCR holders are FTers (and active ones at that) - that's just under 15%...not bad for a website most have never heard of!

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Old Oct 26, 2017, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
64 out of 450 CCR holders are FTers (and active ones at that) - that's just under 15%...not bad for a website most have never heard of!

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450? Where did the other 50 go?
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
64 out of 450 CCR holders are FTers (and active ones at that) - that's just under 15%...not bad for a website most have never heard of!

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And there are still others missing from the list!
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