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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Oct 7, 2017, 1:11 pm
  #496  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by wonderpink
hey again,
would anyone be able to check flight load on the following flights for me please?
October 12 - cx238, cx 250, cx 278, cx 254
thanks!
cx238
j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx250
f0 a0 j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx 278
j1 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx 254
f0 a0 j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0
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Old Oct 7, 2017, 3:22 pm
  #497  
 
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LHR to AUH

Hello
could someone help with CW load tomorrow?
Flight BA73
8th OCT
LHR - AUH
Am in WTP hoping there is space in CW and I can pay to upgrade at airport.
I should have taken the MMB offer, but forgot
Thank you in advance
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 12:37 am
  #498  
 
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Originally Posted by Suggs99
Hello
could someone help with CW load tomorrow?
Flight BA73
8th OCT
LHR - AUH
Am in WTP hoping there is space in CW and I can pay to upgrade at airport.
I should have taken the MMB offer, but forgot
Thank you in advance
Not promising

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 10/08/17 12:00 AM for AUH
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 73         0      LHR                AUH                789       Daily           F0 A0 J6 C4 D4 R0 I0 W6 E3 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 
                     10/08/17 12:40 PM  10/08/17 10:55 PM            79% / 28m
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Seat Map Search:
Departing LHR on 10/08/17 for AUH
Flying BA flight 73 in Business/Club

        A   B       D   E   F       J   K   
6       -   -       -   -   -       -   -       
7       -   -       -   X   -       -   -       
        A   B       D   E   F       J   K   


        A   B       D   E   F       J   K   
10  W   -   X       -   -   -       X   -   W   
11  W   -   -       -   -   -       -   -   W   
12  W   -   -       -   -   -       -   -   W   
13  W   -   X       +   -   -       -   +   W   
        A   B       D   E   F       J   K   




Seats
Premium Only             P                        
Available                +                        
Handicap-Accessible      H                        
Paid & Premium           #                        
Occupied                 -                        
Blocked                  X                        
Lavatory                 L                        
Paid                     $                        

Location
Exit Row                 E                        
Wing                     W                        
Upper Deck               U
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 2:35 am
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Thanks Duvin a lesson learnt I guess. It was 523 to upgrade to cw before I returned home from a work trip to France and stupid money once I landed
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 3:19 am
  #500  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Posts: 6
Hello

Im UK Pos to Kul.
BA 0033
17th Oct.

Can anyone help with the loads.

Thanks
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 4:26 am
  #501  
 
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Originally Posted by Frequent flyer 101
cx238
j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx250
f0 a0 j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx 278
j1 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

cx 254
f0 a0 j0 c0 d0 i0 w0 r0 e0 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0
Thanks Frequent flyer 101! So much for being waitlisted on those flights
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 4:33 am
  #502  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Programs: BA Gold, Starwood Platinum
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Hello
Would anyone mind checking flight loads on the following flights for October 13 please?
CX 250, CX 252, CX 254, CX 256
Thank you!
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 5:05 am
  #503  
 
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i'm not shouting you silly website you

CX 252 F0 A0 J4 C4 D2 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 238 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 250 F0 A0 J1 C1 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 256 J1 C1 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y1 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 254 F0 A0 J2 C1 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

(UK point of sale)
(Quite good loads there, CX)

Last edited by flatlander; Oct 8, 2017 at 6:21 am Reason: fix erroneous lowercasing
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 6:00 am
  #504  
 
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Thanks flatlander!
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 6:24 am
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WonderPink, you seem to want to get to HKG on CX. Saturday 14th is also full, Sunday 15th is better, 16th also, etc.
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 7:02 am
  #506  
 
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Programs: BA Gold, TP Silver
Posts: 888
Originally Posted by Duvall101
Hello

Im UK Pos to Kul.
BA 0033
17th Oct.

Can anyone help with the loads.

Thanks
UK POS

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 10/17/17 12:00 AM for KUL
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 33         0      LHR                KUL                789       Daily           F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B5 H5 K5 M5 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                     10/17/17 8:15 PM   10/18/17 4:05 PM             76% / 27m
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 8:41 am
  #507  
 
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Posts: 148
Originally Posted by flatlander
WonderPink, you seem to want to get to HKG on CX. Saturday 14th is also full, Sunday 15th is better, 16th also, etc.
Thanks flatlander! I'm trying to stick to flying those two days (Oct 12 and 13). I have seen two connection flights on partner airlines which I might grab or I'm also waitlisted on a couple of ex-EU flights on CX as well. Hope they'll find a generous bone in their bodies and let me have one of those as I know there are still seats available!
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 8:56 am
  #508  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Posts: 6
Thankyou, for the fast response.

I see its open in Club, and seats available in WT+.

Originally Posted by duvin
UK POS


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 33 0 LHR KUL 789 Daily F3 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B5 H5 K5 M5 L4 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
10/17/17 8:15 PM 10/18/17 4:05 PM 76% / 27m

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Old Oct 8, 2017, 11:39 am
  #509  
 
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Is it possible to check

BA226 ATL-LHR 3 Nov

BA227 LHR-ATL 7 Nov

Thanks in advance. Trying to decide
a) is it worth it to just pay for seat assignment up front
b) wait until I can check in and see what I get
c) try to be last person on plane and *hope* for an empty row

Even though it's a surprise 10th anniversary trip for my husband, I highly doubt an upgrade is possible since we have no status and purchased WT only. Just trying to maximize comfort and not be *too* miserable.
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Old Oct 8, 2017, 2:58 pm
  #510  
 
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Originally Posted by chemmy
is it possible to check

ba226 atl-lhr 3 nov

ba227 lhr-atl 7 nov

thanks in advance. Trying to decide
a) is it worth it to just pay for seat assignment up front
b) wait until i can check in and see what i get
c) try to be last person on plane and *hope* for an empty row

even though it's a surprise 10th anniversary trip for my husband, i highly doubt an upgrade is possible since we have no status and purchased wt only. Just trying to maximize comfort and not be *too* miserable.
ba226 f1 a1 j0 c0 d0 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y6 b4 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0

ba227 f5 a4 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9
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