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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Nov 18, 2018, 1:30 pm
  #2701  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by bigwalrus
BA104 DXB to LHR on 14 Feb 2019

We have T class WT+ tickets already, but it now appears that there are no more WT+ tickets available. Anyone have an idea what is at play here?
Hmmm, maybe you're about to be Air Belgium'ed. First isn't on sale either.

J - 9 C - 9 D - 9 R - 9 I - 6 Y - 9 B - 9 H - 9 K - 9 M - 9 L - 9
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Old Nov 18, 2018, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by kevin knase
could someone check loads on the following?
11/21 ba 296 ord-lhr
12/2 ba 297 lhr-ord
focusing on economy bookings specifically. Thank you!
ba296: F - 9 a - 9 j - 9 c - 2 d - 1 w - 9 e - 5 y - 9 b - 9 h - 7 k - 6 m - 3 g - 9
ba297: F - 9 a - 8 j - 8 c - 3 d - 2 r - 1 w - 9 y - 9 b - 9 h - 9 k - 9 m - 9 l - 6 v - 1 s - 1
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Old Nov 18, 2018, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Schwann
Hmmm, maybe you're about to be Air Belgium'ed. First isn't on sale either.

J - 9 C - 9 D - 9 R - 9 I - 6 Y - 9 B - 9 H - 9 K - 9 M - 9 L - 9
Thanks. What do you mean by "about to be Air Belgium'ed"?
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Old Nov 18, 2018, 2:03 pm
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And... availability in With (and F) has now returned. Strange

However, availability is only available with a connecting flight from LHR onwards. Direct, one way = no availability.

Last edited by bigwalrus; Nov 18, 2018 at 2:13 pm Reason: Updated
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Old Nov 18, 2018, 11:42 pm
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Originally Posted by bigwalrus
Thanks. What do you mean by "about to be Air Belgium'ed"?
Air Belgium have been operating some flights for BA recently, including to DXB. They don't have First or WTP.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by bigwalrus
BA104 DXB to LHR on 14 Feb 2019

We have T class WT+ tickets already, but it now appears that there are no more WT+ tickets available. Anyone have an idea what is at play here?
It's possible ba104 is being substituted with an air Belgium wet lease. This plane does not have F or WT+ class. Assuming the wet lease continues through February you will soon get an email about it - it happened with our jan flight to dxb two weeks ago. If you want to stay on ba quickly phone up and get moved onto another ba flight.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 5:26 am
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Could someone check BA175 LHR to JFK on 7 May 2019 please.

Have booked redemption in CW and am keen to rebook in F if availability opens up. Am flexible on dates but keen to be on 175 because of the timings, however there seems to be next to no reward availability in F on 175 on any day.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by grantsteve
Could someone check BA175 LHR to JFK on 7 May 2019 please.

Have booked redemption in CW and am keen to rebook in F if availability opens up. Am flexible on dates but keen to be on 175 because of the timings, however there seems to be next to no reward availability in F on 175 on any day.
It's a long way out, so I'm not sure how useful this is.

F9 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA could release F award availability at any time, but hard to predict whether it will be this flight. The seat map has 3 F seats selected, but as always, it's demand to come rather than what's there now. F on this route is probably booked pretty close to travel. I hope it works out.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 5:48 am
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Could anyone please check BA295 on December 3rd (departing at 12:10 LHR - ORD) thank you.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Jonathan2712
Could anyone please check BA295 on December 3rd (departing at 12:10 LHR - ORD) thank you.
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

This is with UK POS.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 6:19 am
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Thanks very much gustavmahler for taking the time to help.
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 6:51 am
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Hi, can someone please check BA33 Lhr to kul today 19 nov?
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 6:53 am
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My request got a little lost in a flurry of activity yesterday:


Please could someone check

BA113 LHR-JFK 23/11/18

Thank you
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by want2goeverywhere
Hi, can someone please check BA33 Lhr to kul today 19 nov?
here it is, with UK POS.

F2 A1 J7 C1 D0 R0 I0 W8 E7 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O2 G9
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Old Nov 19, 2018, 7:13 am
  #2715  
 
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Originally Posted by Gastrocnemius
My request got a little lost in a flurry of activity yesterday:


Please could someone check

BA113 LHR-JFK 23/11/18

Thank you
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 23/11/18 12:00 AM for JFK
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
BA 113 0 LHR JFK 777 Daily F8 A7 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
23/11/18 4:20 PM 23/11/18 7:30 PM 56% / 26m

Originally Posted by want2goeverywhere
Hi, can someone please check BA33 Lhr to kul today 19 nov?
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 19/11/18 12:00 AM for KUL
Flying BA
Point of Sale: UK

Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
BA 33 0 LHR KUL 789 Daily F2 A1 J7 C1 D0 R0 I0 W8 E7 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L4 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O2 G9
19/11/18 7:05 PM 20/11/18 3:45 PM 71% / 29m
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