BA Meals - Complimentary?
#46
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As the OP's main complaint seems to centre around the meals which weren't ordered through the normal chanel (MMB) I'm not so sure this is as big a BA fail as you're making it out to be.
#47
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To be fair on here we only usually get to hear the 'complaints' that aren't handled to the customers liking and of those we only get to hear one side of the story.
As the OP's main complaint seems to centre around the meals which weren't ordered through the normal chanel (MMB) I'm not so sure this is as big a BA fail as you're making it out to be.
As the OP's main complaint seems to centre around the meals which weren't ordered through the normal chanel (MMB) I'm not so sure this is as big a BA fail as you're making it out to be.
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Savour a meal of your choice from our three-course-menu inspired by the world’s top chefs with a glass of our expertly sourced wine to complete your dining experience.
In the morning you can enjoy a hot or a continental breakfast, a great way to start the day.
Afternoon flights include a savoury snack or afternoon tea, quintessentially English with tea supplied by Twinings accompanied by savouries and warm scones.
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#51
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Also, that you were offered a special meal which you declined would also be in BAs favour (I'm not saying your reason for doing so wasn't good but if you were offered something suitable diet wise and declined then that's going to complicate your argument).
I've no idea what / how much you might claim for an inadequately cleaned cabin as you've not really suffered any loss there.
I suspect you may get something from CEDR as there is some merit to your complaints but I'd not expect very much at all. I'd ballpark £50-100 as very rough amount - so much the same as BA's 10,000 avios standard offer in real value.
Though...my experience is with money claim online / small claims, I've yet to try my luck with CEDR and their approach is more 'common sense' than strict application of the law as mentioned before...
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If you're complaining about the cleanliness, it's worth noting that you probably shouldn't be describing what you found as a tampon (presuming that's the label you're applying to the item in the first photo).
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First, as a practical matter, OP ought to submit a written note to BA's customer service listing in clear & concise language what went wrong, e.g., failure to load a special meal and fact that what was offered did not look tasty AND then that the cabin was not clean. I would refrain from the assertion that the fluid was urine and simply state that it looked like it. This ought to be 3-4 short declarative sentences.
Forget telephone, Twitter and the like. These sorts of things are best and most effectively in clear & effective prose rather than asking questions. There is a free webform for this purpose.
As to the value of the mess, the value of the meal is the value of the meal. BA goes through CEDR, MCOL, and small claims proceedings all the time and certainly has priced out a CW meal. These are legal -- or alternative dispute -- systems, not customer service commentary sites. I would expect GBP 25-30 and, of course, a refund of the GBP 25 filing fee (same with MCOL or small claims.
This is why OP will likely do better through the customer service route. That is more focused on customer satisfaction and brand than it is on valuation.
But, if OP is a minimum wage worker, he has already expended more time than he will see compensated.
Forget telephone, Twitter and the like. These sorts of things are best and most effectively in clear & effective prose rather than asking questions. There is a free webform for this purpose.
As to the value of the mess, the value of the meal is the value of the meal. BA goes through CEDR, MCOL, and small claims proceedings all the time and certainly has priced out a CW meal. These are legal -- or alternative dispute -- systems, not customer service commentary sites. I would expect GBP 25-30 and, of course, a refund of the GBP 25 filing fee (same with MCOL or small claims.
This is why OP will likely do better through the customer service route. That is more focused on customer satisfaction and brand than it is on valuation.
But, if OP is a minimum wage worker, he has already expended more time than he will see compensated.
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if that's what they are known to offer easily, the request should be much higher, like 50k Avios. It does not mean the OP should not accept 10k if offered this during the process, but lowballing the request makes it almost unworthy.
#55
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First, as a practical matter, OP ought to submit a written note to BA's customer service listing in clear & concise language what went wrong, e.g., failure to load a special meal and fact that what was offered did not look tasty AND then that the cabin was not clean. I would refrain from the assertion that the fluid was urine and simply state that it looked like it. This ought to be 3-4 short declarative sentences.
Forget telephone, Twitter and the like. These sorts of things are best and most effectively in clear & effective prose rather than asking questions. There is a free webform for this purpose.
As to the value of the mess, the value of the meal is the value of the meal. BA goes through CEDR, MCOL, and small claims proceedings all the time and certainly has priced out a CW meal. These are legal -- or alternative dispute -- systems, not customer service commentary sites. I would expect GBP 25-30 and, of course, a refund of the GBP 25 filing fee (same with MCOL or small claims.
This is why OP will likely do better through the customer service route. That is more focused on customer satisfaction and brand than it is on valuation.
But, if OP is a minimum wage worker, he has already expended more time than he will see compensated.
Forget telephone, Twitter and the like. These sorts of things are best and most effectively in clear & effective prose rather than asking questions. There is a free webform for this purpose.
As to the value of the mess, the value of the meal is the value of the meal. BA goes through CEDR, MCOL, and small claims proceedings all the time and certainly has priced out a CW meal. These are legal -- or alternative dispute -- systems, not customer service commentary sites. I would expect GBP 25-30 and, of course, a refund of the GBP 25 filing fee (same with MCOL or small claims.
This is why OP will likely do better through the customer service route. That is more focused on customer satisfaction and brand than it is on valuation.
But, if OP is a minimum wage worker, he has already expended more time than he will see compensated.
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I haven't been through the CEDR process, but I would say a reasonable expectation - and 10k is the high end here based on BA's compensation 'matrix' as we understand it, so 5k is equally possible - would sit better and be far more likely to find success than something wholly unrealistic. CEDR is not a negotiation process, it is arbitration. Ask for 10k, probably get it. Ask for 50k - you might just get nothing and end up with a £25 bill.
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50k avios is quite a lot however you value them and could be seen as an unreasonable request in this case I htink...
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OP - I think you're onto a hiding to nothing regards the special meal.
Though, you might be the first person ever to have preordered their CW food via Twitter. That's some accomplishment in itself.
Did BA apologise for the rest of the mess?
Though, you might be the first person ever to have preordered their CW food via Twitter. That's some accomplishment in itself.
Did BA apologise for the rest of the mess?
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