jock

Last month the wife booked with AA/BA

29/3 Dub-Lhr-Hel (BA)
30/3 Hel-Man (AY)
30/3 Ord-Mco (AA)

Then..

8/4 Mco-Phl-Lhr-Dub

The AA itinerary clearly stated that the outbound Man flight was via Ord..which it was. (Thought the J seats on AA 767 were cr@p).

After we got home it turns out that AA market (reasons unknown) this flight as Man-Mco (which is isn't) with a stopover in Ord. Clear security, go through TSA, Change Terminals, change planes etc. I've tried to claim 40 extra TP's for the flight down to Mco but BA is pretty much telling me to Bu@@er off. Twice! The flight numbers for both flights were the same, but it was clearly two different flights..even Ba's own itinerary in MMB for this flight gave the right amount of TP's (560).

Does BA have weird fares/multi sectors/multi flights that don't give you the extra TP's/Avios that I/we should look out for?

KARFA

I suspect same flight numbers for MAN-ORD and on to MCO. It is in fact AA who are telling you to bugger off when the claim is submitted to them from BA. Unfortunately there are a number of these AA multi segment same flight numbers which still exist and you aren't not the first person to fall in to the trap - hopefully you will know for next time and keep an eye on flight numbers.

corporate-wage-slave

Yes, this does come up from time to time. As far as I can tell you're stuck on this one. It is one prime AA code to MCO and though it is different aircraft, different seats, different boarding passes, AA - who award the Tier Points - nevertheless treats it as one flight.

You're not the first, I doubt you'll be the last. It just requires you to check the AA flight numbers and if they are the same you need to shuffle things around. Or even have 24 hours in ORD and go on the same service, that would give the extra TPs.

Watch out for AA's Heathrow service to Salt Lake City and Honolulu. No, there are no such flights, but there are in the splendid imagination of AA.

jock

Is it worth bugging AA and complaining about this..or should I just accept it?

corporate-wage-slave

See posts 2 and 3.

caz312

as per the answers already given - this is how AA treat these connections...at a guess you were connecting from AA55 MAN-ORD to AA55 ORD-MCO...this is treated as one AA55 flight from MAN-MCO

our_kid

Same as the infamous AA101 to CLT via JFK - watch out for aircraft type CHG when booking!!

jerry a. laska

Direct flights (single flight numbers with a connection) only earn avios and tier points based upon the beginning and end cities. This is how it credits with Advantage also. You won't get AA to change their mind. See also this thread and others linked within:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...g-flights.html

Getafix

If the MAN-MCO is shown on you ticket, then that is what you get.

Similar to BA15/16 to/from SYD via SIN. You come off the Aircraft and reboard again.

Only difference is with USA, you have to clear Customs at first point of Entry.

stifle

A direct but not non-stop flight counts as one flight for the purpose of TP credit. You are, to use a technical term, SOL.

MrMutton

MAN-PHL-LAS is also one of these with 1 flight number but 2 separate flights (AA735). However, it has TWO BA codeshare numbers (BA1600 and BA6717) so whilst it will not help retrospectively in this situation, booking with BA codes would net the desired (logical) credit.

Gshumway

But by definition this isn't a direct flight, as you change aircrafts.

jerry a. laska

That doesn't mean it can't be a direct flight. Direct flights just have a single flight number and include intermediate stops and can include a change of plane.

MADPhil

Moreover if the first leg is delayed then they may dispatch the second leg without waiting for people to connect, thus exposing the falsity of it! At least you would then get the extra TPS.

jock

Thxs everyone...luckily we didnt really need the tps..but had i known this..i would have gone a different route rather than connect through Manchester...plus got extra tps..u live and learn eh?