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Old Mar 27, 2017, 11:38 pm
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Alex Cruz: pax satisfaction on BOB is improving

As per Business Traveller, Alex Cruz is saying passenger feedback on BOB is improving. Pity he did not say improved by how much and from what point. It is improving if the feedback from 1% positive to 1.001% positive.

I think AC has incredible tunnel vision on BA's business. I guess at some stage Vueling was improving too.

maybe once all loyal BA flyer is gone Alex Cruz can claim victory that no one is complaining.
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Old Mar 27, 2017, 11:53 pm
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:22 am
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I'm sure it has improved considering the disastrous rollout where crew couldn't work the payment machines and stock wasn't being loaded.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:36 am
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Free water ...... but no BoB.

Well yesterday we had free water! A half a small plastic cup ful each... but there was no BoB... apparently DHL let BA down and didn't deliver..

I know it was only a short domestic flight but after almost an hour waiting to board (the cleaners had also caused some sort of hold up) I could have done with a cup of tea.

We were still treated to the horrible oven smell for some reason - not sure what that was about unless the captain was being made a toastie?! (Which I do not begrudge)..
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:44 am
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Taken at face value it doesn't seem an unreasonable statement. While there'll always be those who disagree with the concept entirely and their opinions aren't likely to change, the reactions of those who don't have principled objections to BoB will only become more favourable as the teething troubles and implementation problems get worked out over time.

So not an unreasonable statement, but also not in any way a surprising one.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:46 am
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It seems not to pass the smell test when you consider flights are still routinely leaving London without full (or in some cases, any) stock.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:55 am
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He must have chucked my survey in the bin then
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:01 am
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Originally Posted by BahrainLad
It seems not to pass the smell test when you consider flights are still routinely leaving London without full (or in some cases, any) stock.
If it doesn't pass the smell test then I think you're reading too much into it. He only said it's improving, not that it's good - if fewer planes are leaving with inadequate stock now than did in the first week, that's improving.

Let's be clear here: anything he says in public is a PR exercise, which means you have to ignore the implication that he wants you to make (customers are now happy with BoB, which you're rightly suspicious of) and look at the actual words on the page (feedback is improving, which without any details of how far and from what starting point is fairly meaningless).
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:19 am
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A lot of this is probably due to acceptance.

When BoB first came out, a lot of people weren't happy, were took unaware, a lot of negative press feedback was generated and therefore many complaints.
Now people are accepting it either positively or negatively (or are now aware) so are or aren't buying and now aren't complaining at the same level.

With the same logic, you could say Syria is a great place to live.
Loads of news months ago about places being bombed to hell, and now there's practically nothing in the media so obviously it's become this great place to live.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:20 am
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I'd love to know what BA's KPIs are, and see the actual results. If one of them revolves around BoB, what exactly is it, how is it measurable, what's the target and what's the timescale to achieve it?

The usual vague, washy, vacuous words from AC without any statistics behind them only lead me to surmise that whilst there's been an improvement (and it would be pretty hard to go backwards from the botched implementation) actually BA is no-where near meeting the target.

You can only spin so far before your credibility is completely shot. AC passed that point some time ago.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:25 am
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:27 am
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Can anyone explain this line to me?

'we are using technology to improve – we went contactless for this so people could use cards such as American Express, and that’s one example of the ways we are improving the experience.'
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:41 am
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Sure, i believe the equivalent is:

"We believe in technology. We were using stone flints to carve food when we realised that everybody else were using purpose made knives, and for some time in fact. We decided it might be a good idea to also get with the times"
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by Raffles
Can anyone explain this line to me?

'we are using technology to improve – we went contactless for this so people could use cards such as American Express, and that’s one example of the ways we are improving the experience.'
Spanglish?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by Raffles
Can anyone explain this line to me?

'we are using technology to improve – we went contactless for this so people could use cards such as American Express, and that’s one example of the ways we are improving the experience.'

Not entirely sure myself Raffles, but I'll give it a go with this alternative translation :

"With considerable effort, and drawing upon all our reserves of operational expertise & financial knowledge, we have somehow managed to offer a particular payment mechanism which most of our customers long ago came to regard as totally routine in all other aspects of their daily lives.
We at British Airways look forward to receiving an industry accolade, together with the associated respect & admiration of not only our loyal passengers but also that of our competitors, for achieving the merest semblance of efficiency within this part of our new, highly-valued, onboard short-haul service"


HTH !
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