Club Europe catering guide
New catering standards for Club Europe are coming, which you should see on existing routes from this Sunday. UK domestic routes will follow from 01 April.
There will also be a slight realignment of catering bands as the current Bands 1, 2, 3, and 4 will be replaced by new Short, Medium, and Long catering bands. We’ve been told we should expect a number of real, tangible improvements such as new crockery, new mugs, and also new wines (served at your seat from full sized bottles on Medium and Long flights). As to the quality of the new offering, well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating so please do post your impressions of the new service as it rolls out. The following information is applicable to Heathrow and Gatwick routes which I hope you will find useful. This will be updated and expanded with product details during the weeks ahead once we get a better feel of the new offering. Service timings http://prospelicious.com/wp-content/...6/CE_times.png Destination map identifying destination bands http://prospelicious.com/wp-content/...tering_map.png Note, the map is not fully inclusive so some destinations have been omitted for visual clarity. You can rest assured that Iceland, Canary Islands plus the myriad of Greek destinations all fall into the new Long category. Borderline destinations located on the fringes of two bands are indicated in the next 2 diagrams http://prospelicious.com/wp-content/...6/CE_BL_SM.png http://prospelicious.com/wp-content/...5/CE_BL_ML.png Food offerings Short
Breakfast 05:00 to 09:29 LBA/MAN: a bacon roll, a selection of fresh fruit, bread/croissants and a dairy product, such as yoghurt with fruit compote Other Short flights: a choice between a hot English breakfast or a vegetarian alternative Brunch 09:30 to 10:59 A choice of a continental cold meat selection with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Lunch 11:00 to 13:59 A choice of a fresh salad with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Afternoon tea 14:00 to 16:59 A choice of sandwiches or a Ploughman's salad, both served with traditional British cake Dinner 17:00 to 04:59 A choice of a fresh salad with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Medium
Breakfast 05:00 to 09:29 A choice between a hot English breakfast or a vegetarian alternative Brunch 09:30 to 10:59 A choice of a continental cold meat selection with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Lunch 11:00 to 13:59 A choice of a fresh salad with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Afternoon tea 14:00 to 16:59 A choice of sandwiches or a Ploughman's salad, both served with traditional British cake Dinner 17:00 to 04:59 A choice of a fresh salad with warm bakery or a hot sandwich Long
Breakfast 05:00 to 09:29 A choice between a hot English breakfast or a vegetarian alternative Rest of day meal 09:30 to 04:59 Hot meal with appetiser, warm breads, cheese and dessert Photos and impressions This part has been left for you to populate. :) |
We're flying out on a long CE on Sunday, so will let you know!
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Thanks for the heads up.
Is there going to be a quicker rotation on the food, as I am sick to death of hot smoked salmon linguini or Chicken breast in jus on band 4 flight. 3 month menu rotations can not save that much money, but really annoys those who fly frequently. |
Does wine served from full sized bottles include Champagne, meaning potential switch to Henriot from Castelnau?
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Looks good on paper - assuming:
-Bands 1 and 2 become "Short" -Band 3 is "Medium" and retains hot lunch and dinner -There are overall a few good promotions up the bands (e.g. BUD/IBZ/FCO) |
Originally Posted by ENTP
(Post 28077878)
Looks good on paper - assuming:
-Bands 1 and 2 become "Short" -Band 3 is "Medium" and retains hot lunch and dinner -There are overall a few good promotions up the bands (e.g. BUD/IBZ/FCO) |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28077887)
There will be hot meals on all lunch and dinner flights across all bands.
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28077887)
There will be hot meals on all lunch and dinner flights across all bands.
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Nice job with the graphics ^
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This is going to be interesting. I am preparing to be significantly underwhelmed. Full size wine bottles don't overshadow the same old breakfast, the utterly unimaginative brunch or the rigid meal times which mean departing HEL at 1655 means you are the recipient of 3 dry finger sandwiches, a pre packed cake and a heated scone on a scheduled flight time of c2hrs 45m.
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Originally Posted by surryson
(Post 28078293)
This is going to be interesting. I am preparing to be significantly underwhelmed. Full size wine bottles don't overshadow the same old breakfast, the utterly unimaginative brunch or the rigid meal times which mean departing HEL at 1655 means you are the recipient of 3 dry finger sandwiches, a pre packed cake and a heated scone on a scheduled flight time of c2hrs 45m.
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This is great news. Particularly on the ex-Band 1's where they managed a hot brekkie, but nothing else substantial the rest of the day?
"a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread" With a plate?? :D |
Originally Posted by Prospero
(Post 28078331)
The changes should work out better for you as HEL will be moving from Band 3 to the new Long category. The outcome of which should be a full meal service throughout the day
Great work on the thread so far Prospero. Thanks for organising. ^ |
Tentatively this looks good. Let's see...
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Originally Posted by World Traveller Fuss
(Post 28078357)
This is great news. Particularly on the ex-Band 1's where they managed a hot brekkie, but nothing else substantial the rest of the day?
"a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread" With a plate?? :D |
Am doing a Long to LCA Tuesday so will post some photos.
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Interesting... TXL is a stretch of "Short" band while WAW and KRK are both in "Long".
My next BA CE flight is mid May, two evening flights, looking forward to try the new CE service! |
Originally Posted by megaloman
(Post 28078740)
Interesting... TXL is a stretch of "Short" band while WAW and KRK are both in "Long".
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It only mentions a full bar on some services... does that mean no more champagne breakfasts??
I cant imagine them opening / carrying a full sized bottle for a 9am flight |
Originally Posted by AndyFlyer
(Post 28078489)
Isn't it a warm sandwich rather than a hot meal? I believe it may be...
For lunch and dinner you can choose between a fresh salad and a hot sandwich (on flights within the UK) or a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread and a full bar service (on flights within Europe). But, does that mean the choice is between salad and sandwich on domestics, and a choice between salad and a hot meal on European flights? or Does it mean that we will all get the salad and then a choice between sandwich and hot meal? I would say say the former as the later isn't a choice as they would be giving you both. I do think their wording and structure could be a little clearer. MODS is there any reason why we cannot post a screenshot of the above linked page for future reference if any changes do occur? |
Nice work as always Prospero!
Personally with ARN as my base I like these changes and will now always get a proper meal. But as I read it some of the shorter flights will not get a hot meal post breakfast? Maybe I read it wrong somewhere. |
I'm flying back from MLA in CE on Sunday so I will take some pics and report back.
(Currently in the new Club Lounge at LGW which is very nice as has been reported. Very disgruntled passenger in front of me dismayed that the First lounge was closed when we arrived about 06:45 and was forced to turn right not left...) |
I'm happy this is being rolled out on Sunday. I'm flying a 'long' route which used to be band 3 so was expecting an afternoon tea service. I'll cancel my special meal and enjoy the new offering.
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Wait... so a 'tasty hot meal' on ALL European flights at lunch or dinner times?!
Is this actually a hot meal, or is it BA-speak for a cheese toastie? |
Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079597)
Wait... so a 'tasty hot meal' on ALL European flights at lunch or dinner times?!
Is this actually a hot meal, or is it BA-speak for a cheese toastie? "For lunch and dinner you can choose between a fresh salad and a hot sandwich (on flights within the UK) or a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread and a full bar service (on flights within Europe)." |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28079608)
If you take time to read the link posted above you will note:
"For lunch and dinner you can choose between a fresh salad and a hot sandwich (on flights within the UK) or a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread and a full bar service (on flights within Europe)." If you take time to read my post, I was questioning the definition of 'tasty hot meal' in this very sentence on BA.com. Is anyone able to actually answer my question, please? Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28079608)
If you take time to read the link posted above you will note:
"For lunch and dinner you can choose between a fresh salad and a hot sandwich (on flights within the UK) or a tasty hot meal accompanied by warm bread and a full bar service (on flights within Europe)." As with everything BA do these days, any improvement to anything will be balanced by an equivalent cost saving. |
Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079613)
I have, of course, read BA.com.
If you take time to read my post, I was questioning the definition of 'tasty hot meal' in this very sentence on BA.com. Is anyone able to actually answer my question, please? Thanks. Your question was clearly formed to imply a negative slant to this positive news, The answer to your question is clearly answered in my post. BA have been unequivocal in their description of the offering (a) a 'hot sandwich' on domestics (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would come under that description) and (b) a 'hot meal' on other routes (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would not come under that description). |
Many thanks Prospero!
Perhaps you could add Marrakech to the list of places that fall into the new Long category please? |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28079644)
Your question was clearly formed to imply a negative slant to this positive news, The answer to your question is clearly answered in my post. BA have been unequivocal in their description of the offering (a) a 'hot sandwich' on domestics (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would come under that description) and (b) a 'hot meal' on other routes (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would not come under that description).
I do not believe this to be the case. Hence the clarification. I think you are putting too much faith in BA.com. |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28079644)
Nothing condescending in my reply at all. In a time where BA have been penny pinching across the board we now see a veritable improvement in the service offerings. This is a genuine improvement of the CE proposition.
Your question was clearly formed to imply a negative slant to this positive news, The answer to your question is clearly answered in my post. BA have been unequivocal in their description of the offering (a) a 'hot sandwich' on domestics (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would come under that description) and (b) a 'hot meal' on other routes (and presumably your 'cheese toastie' would not come under that description). |
Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
(Post 28077887)
There will be hot meals on all lunch and dinner flights across all bands.
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079654)
So you really think that, say, London to Amsterdam, will serve a proper hot main at lunch and dinner? :confused: ...
On 'short' bands I would expect a light meal, with something more substantial as you rise up the catering bands.
Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079654)
...I think you are putting too much faith in BA.com.
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If BA serve a hot meal on a London to Amsterdam, I will eat my hat.
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079716)
If BA serve a hot meal on a London to Amsterdam, I will eat my hat.
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Tobias-UK do you have any information confirming the introduction of hot meals (not cheese toasties) on all European sectors at lunch/dinner other than what is printed on BA.com?
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I'm on the 777 to MAD on the 1st, will be able to pretend I'm in Club World with the new menu :cool:
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Originally Posted by bhbloke
(Post 28079875)
I'm on the 777 to MAD on the 1st, will be able to pretend I'm in Club World with the new menu :cool:
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Originally Posted by ba_cityflyer
(Post 28079878)
They serve cheese toasties in Club World now? :p
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