flight with Air Berlin cancelled - rebooked on 4U - will I get my avios?
Jan 30, 2017, 1:36 am
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flight with Air Berlin cancelled - rebooked on 4U - will I get my avios?
I should have known better, but I booked a flight on AirBerlin STR-TXL. In W, should get me 10 TP and 250avios.
Flight was cancelled and I was rebooked on Eurowings (LH group). Not only, i couldn't access (as BA Gold) lounge in Stuttgart anymore, I ask myself if I will get TPs/avios. not that it's a lot, and Gold is already done - so I dont really need them.
Any experiences ?
Flight was cancelled and I was rebooked on Eurowings (LH group). Not only, i couldn't access (as BA Gold) lounge in Stuttgart anymore, I ask myself if I will get TPs/avios. not that it's a lot, and Gold is already done - so I dont really need them.
Any experiences ?
Jan 30, 2017, 1:46 am
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Get miles on your favourite Star Alliance programme instead. I've found that, in these circumstances, it's often booked in a higher, and thus higher earning, booking class than the original ticket.
Jan 30, 2017, 2:14 am
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ORC may be relevant to you, see the guide for more information https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...r-s-guide.html
Nothing to stop you double dipping and also crediting to a *A program too.
Nothing to stop you double dipping and also crediting to a *A program too.
Jan 30, 2017, 3:51 am
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You should get the ORC and can claim the A* points.
You could also refuse the rebooking and ask for an alternative flight, if you are unhappy with the lounge access situation. I have certainly done that with BA when they offered a rebooking on a non-OW airline which would have involved a five hour wait without lounge access.
You could also refuse the rebooking and ask for an alternative flight, if you are unhappy with the lounge access situation. I have certainly done that with BA when they offered a rebooking on a non-OW airline which would have involved a five hour wait without lounge access.
Jan 30, 2017, 4:10 am
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I've no real experience of this but the linked thread appear to cover AA mainly, and a supposedly clear policy by them to pay out ORC (via BAEC) if you are rerouted due to IRROPS. There is also a BAEC T&C about ORC if BA reroute you on to a non-partner airline, but I assume the OP here isn't ticketed by BA.
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
Jan 30, 2017, 4:20 am
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I've no real experience of this but the linked thread appear to cover AA mainly, and a supposedly clear policy by them to pay out ORC (via BAEC) if you are rerouted due to IRROPS. There is also a BAEC T&C about ORC if BA reroute you on to a non-partner airline, but I assume the OP here isn't ticketed by BA.
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
You'll note I said "may" be due ORC as I was trying to address the distinction you raise about IRROPS and schedule changes, albeit without going in to the detail. ORC really applies for IRROPS and involuntary reroutes, rather than re-routing due to schedule changes weeks or months out. It wasn't clear to me which of those apply here - it seems to be IRROPS but I am not sure, if it is something weeks out and the OP accepted the change to Eurowings I would agree ORC wouldn't apply.
Also as noted, even if ORC does apply here there is nothing to stop the OP also crediting to a *A program and double dipping.
Anyway, more information in the thread I linked to, and some previous noted from me here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27696747-post47.html
Jan 30, 2017, 5:08 am
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I've no real experience of this but the linked thread appear to cover AA mainly, and a supposedly clear policy by them to pay out ORC (via BAEC) if you are rerouted due to IRROPS. There is also a BAEC T&C about ORC if BA reroute you on to a non-partner airline, but I assume the OP here isn't ticketed by BA.
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
I can't see why BA would (or should) pay out avios and TPs themselves in these circumstances. They were going to be paid for those credits by AB, now they won't be paid for them by Eurowings, and BA aren't responsible to the OP for the schedule changes. It would have to be down to AB proactively covering the ORC, which seems very unlikely (compared to the deeper BA/AA links).
Jan 30, 2017, 6:10 am
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Jan 30, 2017, 6:12 am
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Sorry, had assumed they were an *A airline. In that case you can credit the 4U flight to whichever FFP is appropriate as long as it isn't a oneworld FFP, so sounds like LH M&M is your only option to double dip.
Jan 30, 2017, 10:47 am
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On Germanwings/Eurowings you can claim miles on LH M&M, AC Aeroplan/Altitude, UA Mileage Plus or ANA Mileage Club. In addition they have their own Boomerang Club.
Jan 30, 2017, 10:51 am
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The principle of double dipping is correct.