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Old Jan 1, 2017, 5:50 am
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2017 POUG rate tracker

Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you. Please delete any figures from 2017 or earlier if you have a 2018 price. Previous data lives on via post 2.

UPDATED TO: Post #418

POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner (example from MMB below). You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.



Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
  • ABZ - £65 (to and from LHR, Mar 2017)
  • ACE -£119 (to LGW, Nov 2016)
  • AGP – £79 (Feb 2016, LCY), £99 (Oct 2018, ex-LGW) €119 (To LGW, July 2017)
  • AMS - £89 (Apr 2017/Nov 2017) ex LHR, £79 from LGW (Feb 2017), £69 for LCY-AMS (May 2017), £79 for LCY-AMS (Dec 2018),£69 for AMS-LCY (May 2017, June 2017), €79 for LCY-AMS (May), £79 for LHR-AMS (Oct 2018)
  • ANE - £69 (Mar 2016) ex LCY
  • ARN - £129 ex-LHR (July 2018), £129 ex-ARN (Aug 2018)
  • ATH - £149 - both ways (Jun 2017)
  • BCN – €109 from LGW (Feb 2016) £89 from LGW (May2017), £119 from LHR (Apr 2017), €140 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £89 (to LGW, May 2017), £89 (LGW-BCN/BCN-LGW Aug 2017)
  • BDS - £60 (March 2017)
  • BGO - £79 (Dec 2015)
  • BHD - £69 (Feb 2018), £69 (out and back LHR Jun, Aug and Oct 2018)
  • BLL - £69 (to LHR, Jul 2017)
  • BLQ - £69 (to LHR, Jun 2017), £89 (each way, Dec 2017)
  • BOD - £49 (Aug 2017
  • BRI - £60 (March 2017)
  • BRU - £129 (Jan 2016), €130 (Dec 2016) €89 (To LHR, May 2017)
  • BSL - £109 (to LHR, Jan 2017) CHF 190 (Feb 2016), CHF 169 (Dec 2018)
  • BUD - £149 (to LHR, Nov 2018), GBP149 (to BUD, December 2017)
  • CDG - £85 (Jan 2017), €115 (to LHR, Sep 2016), €109 (to LHR, May 2017)
  • CGN - €89 (to LGW, Aug 2018)
  • CHQ - £245 (Dec 2016)
  • CMF -
  • CPH - £109 (Jun 2017), £129 (to LHR, Jan 2017)
  • CTA - £89 (Jun 2017) €109 (to LGW, Jan 2017)
  • DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
  • DUB - £119 (to LHR, Feb 2017), £69 (to LHR, June 2017), £69 (out and back from LHR - Aug 2017), €89 (to LCY Aug 2018 on HBO fare), €99 (to Dublin from LHR Aug 2018 on HBO fare) £89 (Oct 2018)
  • DUS - £69 (to/from LHR, May 2018)) €79 (to LCY, Jul 2017) €155 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • EDI - £65 (Jan 2018 - from LGW), £70 (From LGW, Feb 2018), £60 (to LCY, May 2018), £70 (from LGW, May 2018), £69 (to LHR, June 2018), £59 (to LCY, Jul 2018), £69 (from LHR, Aug 2018)
  • FAO - €119 (to LGW, Jul 2017)
  • FCO - £139 (from LHR, Apr 2017), £89 (from LGW, Aug 2018)
  • FLR - £89 (Nov 2018)
  • FRA - £69 (to LCY Apr 2018) £49 (Oct 2017) / £49 and £50 (Aug 2017) /£49 (to LHR, Aug 2017), €109/145 (to LHR, Jan 2017/Feb 2017) / €79 (to LCY, Jul 2016). €59 to LHR (May 2017), £109 (from LHR, Aug 2018)
  • GIB - £149 (Oct 2018), £149 (to LHR Oct 2019)
  • GLA - £65 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • GOT – £109 (Dec 2018)
  • GVA - £129 (May 2017) £79 (Mar 2017), £89 (to LGW, Jan 2017) £129 (to LHR, May 2017), CHF99 (to LCY, Dec 2017), £139 (From LHR May 2018)
  • HAJ - £90 (Jan 2017) £99 (to LHR, Jun 2017) £109 (July 2018)
  • HAM - €69 (to LHR, April 2017) €79/£69 (from LHR, April/June 2017)
  • HEL – £120 (Apr 2017) (from/to LHR €169, April 2018) £159 (August 2018)
  • IBZ - £69 both ways (June 2016)
  • INN – £79 to INN, €89 to LHR (Feb 2018)
  • INV – £65 (Apr 2017), £79 (Jan 2018)
  • IST - £149 (Jun 2017), £109 (To LHR, Jul 2017), $169 (to LHR December 2018)
  • JER - £79 (Jan 2017), £79 (to LGW, Jul 2017)
  • JMK - £239 (from LHR Jun 2018), £239 (to LHR July 2018)
  • KBP - £179 (Jul 2017)
  • KEF - £169 (Apr 2017). Note system offered £239 but contact centre staff got the cost down!
  • LBA – £59 (both ways, Aug 2017)
  • LCA – £219 (to LHR, Feb 2017)
  • LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
  • LIN – £129 (Feb 2018) (To and From LHR), £129 (May 2018 for Sep), £119 (Jan 2019 from LCY)
  • LIG - £79 both ways (including Eastern operated in one direction) June 2018
  • LIS – £145 (Jan 2017) £85 (to LGW, Feb 2017) £139 (from LHR Nov 2018)
  • LPA - £199 (Dec 2017)
  • LUX -£139 (Nov 2016), £105 (to LUX, Jan 2017), £59 (each way, Mar 2018)
  • LYS - £120 (Dec 2016), £89 (March 2018), £89 (Nov 2018)
  • MAD - €89 MAD-LCY (Feb 2016), £79 LCY-MAD (Jan 2017), £159 LHR-MAD (Apr 2018). €169 LHR-MAD (Mar 2018), £159 MAD-LHR both ways from HBO Y (Oct 2018)
  • MAH - £129 (Jul 2017)
  • MAN - £59 (October 2018) offered in both directions. Same price from LCY (Dec 2018 - both directions)
  • MLA - €119 (Aug 2018)
  • MPL - £130 (Mar 2017)
  • MUC - £119 (Feb 2018)
  • MJV - £70 (Nov 2016 from HBO, also Feb 2017 same price).
  • MRS - £119 (ex-LHR, May 2018). £89 (Jul 2017), £109 (to LHR, Nov 2016 HBO, Weekend Daytrip ex LHR)
  • MXP - £149 (from/to LHR April 2018) £129 (Jun 2017)/ €109 (to LHR, Feb 2017) £99 (To LHR, Aug 2017)
  • NCE - £138 (May 2017), £125/149; £89 (to LHR, May 2017), £149 (from STN, Apr 2017) £89 (from LGW, May 2017, again June 2018) £69 (to LCY, May 2017)
  • NCL - £59 (from/to LHR, Aug 2018)
  • NTE - £80 (Mar 2017)
  • ORY - £85, €89, €119 (Jan 2017)
  • OSL - £129 (Apr 2017) £159 (To LHR, Apr 2017) £124 (NOK1379, OSL->LHR, Dec 2017), £129 (to OSL, Jan 2018 for May), £129 (May 2018 for Aug)
  • OTP - £129 (Nov 2018) usually £202-239,
  • PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
  • PMI - €205 (Mar 2016, LHR), £69 (from LCY, Jul 2017)
  • PRG - £119 (Nov 2018)
  • PSA - £170 (Apr 2017)
  • PUY - £119 (Apr 2017)
  • RAK - £99 ( May 2018, from LGW) £99 ( Oct 2018, to LGW), £99 (Nov 2018 LHR-RAK)
  • RTM -
  • SOF - £149 (Jun 2017), €185 (to LHR, Feb 2017),
  • STR - £70 (Feb 2017) €115/£99 (to LHR, Jan 2017/Feb 2017) £109 (Either way Nov 2018)
  • SVG - £99 / NOK 720 (Dec 2015),
  • SZG -
  • TFS – €139 (to LGW, Mar 2017)
  • TIA –
  • TLL - £60 (Mar 2017), £79 (Aug 2017 for Nov)
  • TRN - €109 (to LGW Feb 2017)
  • TXL – €120 (to LHR, Feb 2017), £129 (Feb 2018, ex-LHR), €129 (from LHR, Sept 2017), £129 (to LHR, March 2018 for April)
  • UIP -
  • VCE - £89 (Mar 2017), €109 (to LGW, Feb 2016), £119 ex-LHR (Apr 2018)
  • VIE – £110 (Feb 2017) £159 (to LHR, May 2017) €129 (to LHR, April 2018) £129 (to LHR, from a Basic fare, Sept 2018)
  • VRN - €109 (Jul 2017)
  • WAW - £115 (Jan2017) / 475 PLN (£79) (Oct 2015) £109/139 (To LHR, Jun 2017)
  • ZAG - €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
  • ZRH – £119 (To LHR, Jun 2017), £131 (Jan 2017) / £69 (from LCY Jan 2016) £69 (LCY July 2017), CHF189/£148 (To LHR, May 2018, Dec 2018)
  • ZTH - £135 (March 2017)


Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
  • BOS - WTP £198 (Jul 2017), CW £352 ex-BOS (Jan 2018), CW £352 ex-LHR (Jan 2018)
  • BWI - WTP $248 to BWI / WTP $256 to LHR (Mar 2017), CW $306 to LHR (Jan 2018)
  • DFW - CW $850/£380 (Feb 2017/Mar 2017) £525 (Apr 2017)
  • EWR - WTP $256 (Jan 2016) see also JFK
  • JFK – WTP £279 (Oct 2018) and then down to £238 (Nov 2018) CW £359 (Jul 2017) see also EWR
  • IAD – WTP £190 / £216 (Feb 2017), £269 (Nov 2017) CW $525 (Jul 2017) WTP $171 (May 2018 •• on an Avios booking)
  • LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015) CW £416 from WT (Apr 2017)
  • LAX - WTP £195 (Aug 2017), WTP £269 (June 2018)CW £540 (Feb 2015)
  • MEX - WTP £235 (Jan 2017),CW £468 (Jan 2017). F £447 (Oct 2014)
  • MIA - WTP £160 (Aug 2017), CW £420 (Jan 2017)
  • OAK - CW £464 ex LGW (Feb 2018) and £508 (Oct 2018)
  • ORD - CW £473 (Nov 2015)
  • PHL - CW $551/$379 (Apr/May 2017), CW £525 (Feb 2016) F £575 (Feb 2017) CW £330 (Oct 2018)
  • PHX- CW $1,080 (May 2017)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015), CW $552 (offered Aug, for Dec 2017)
  • SFO - CW $799 (offered Sep 2018 for Oct 2018)
  • SJC - CW $900 (Mar 2017)
  • YUL – CW £549 (Mar 2017)
  • YVR - WTP £209 (Jun 2017), CW £595 (Jan 2017), CW £441 (Aug 2018)
  • YYZ - WTP £168 (Aug 2016), CW £549/449 (May 2017)
  • SEA - WTP $288 (Mar 2018)

Long haul routes from LON to South America and the Caribbean

(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BGI -WTP £180 (Oct 2016)

Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £229 / £240 (Aug 2016), CW £549 (Aug 2016)
  • BOM – WTP £249 (May 2018)
  • BLR – CW £350 (Sep 2017)
  • DEL – WTP £189 (Jan 2017), CW £352 (May 2018)
  • HKG - WTP £165/270 (Mar 2017), CW £486 (Jan, Apr 2017), CW £629 (Seo 2017), CW £820 (June 2018)
  • ICN - WTP £152 (Sep 2016)
  • KUL - F £649 (Feb 2016)
  • NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
  • PEK - WTP £165 (Apr 2016)
  • PVG – WTP £200 (Mar 2017), CW £460 (Mar 2017)
  • SIN - to LHR - CW £495 (Apr 2017)

Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)

Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – WTP £105 (Feb 2017) CW £425 (Jan 2017)
  • CAI - WTP £109/155 (May 2017) CW £399 (from WT, Jan 2017)
  • CPT – WTP £92 (Apr 2016)
  • DXB – WTP £119/153 (Jul 2017) CW £425 (Feb 2017) WTP £127 (Aug 2017)
  • JNB - WTP £229 (Feb 2016), CW £540 (Jan 2017), CW £510 (Feb 2017)
  • KWI – WTP £100 (to LHR, Aug2017)
  • MCT - CW £450 (March 2017), CW £522 (Sept 2017)
  • RAK - CE £99 (Dec 2015)
  • TLV - WTP £118 (May 2017) WTP £150 (April 2018)
  • TLV - CW £120 (Sept 2015)


Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – WTP £129 (May 2017); CW £425 (May 2017) WT - WTP £161 (Dec 2018), WTP - CW £161 (Dec 2018
  • BGI - WTP £199 (Oct 2016)
  • BKK - CW £399 (Jul 2017)
  • BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), CW $680 (Mar 2016), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
  • BOM - CW £499 (July 2016), CW to F INR 46,665, approx. GBP 530 (29-Jun-18 for 30-Jun-18 1.45am departure)
  • DEL - WTP £209 (Jan 2017)
  • DEN- CW £473 (May 2017
  • DFW - WTP £255 (May 2017) CW $680 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
  • DME - WTP £145 (Apr 2016)
  • DXB – WTP £109 (Jun 2017), CW £350/425 (Mar 2017) WTP £150 (Aug 2017)
  • EWR - CW £473 (Sep 2016) see also JFK
  • GIG – CW £399 (Aug 2016), F £447 (Jan 2015)
  • HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)/ HK$2700 (Mar 2017)
  • HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April, also offered for May 2016), CW £540 (Jan 2017) CW £697 (May 2018)
  • IAD - CW $780 (Jul 2017) CW £540/485 (Feb/Mar 2017)
  • IAH - WTP £209 (June 2017), CW $850 (June 2017)
  • JFK – WTP £157/£270 (Jan/Apr 2017), WTP $279 (Mar 2017), CW £296/315 (Aug 2017) F £525 (May 2017), F $999 (Jan 2016) see also EWR, CW £501 (Dec 18)
  • JNB - CW £599 (Feb 2017)
  • KWI - WTP £226 (Oct 2018)
  • LAX - WTP £184, CW £599 (Apr 2016)
  • MCT - CW £450 (Mar 2017)
  • MCO - WTP £170 (Mar 2016) WTP £160 (Sept 2017)
  • MEX - CW £447 (Apr 2016)
  • MSY - CW £549 (Apr 2017)
  • MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015, CW £420 (Jan 2017)
  • NBO - CW £518 (Jan 2018)
  • OAK - CW £480 (Feb 2018) and £508 (Oct 2018)
  • ORD - WTP £189 (Feb 2016), CW £473 (Nov 2015) increased to £525 in 4 hours.
  • PEK - WTP £198 (Apr 2016), CW £549 (Aug 2015)
  • PHL- CW $579 (Apr 2017)
  • PHX - CW $765 (Feb 2017)
  • SCL - CW £425 (Apr 2017)
  • SEA - WTP £207 (Feb 2016)
  • SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015), $950/970 (Jan 2017), CW £477 (Nov 2017)
  • SFO - F $950, then $855, then back to $950 two days before dep (Feb 2017)
  • SFO - CW: $631 (Feb 2018 flight)
  • SFO - WTP to CW $738 (6/22/18 flight)
  • SIN – WTP £198 (Feb 2017), CW £495 (Jun 2017) WTP - £198 (Jan 2017)
  • SJC - CW £809 (Feb 2017) CW $1,046 (Jun 2017)
  • TLV - WTP £127-136 Jan 2017) $240 (Jun 2016)
  • YUL - WTP £180 (Jun 2016) CW £449 (Mar 2017)
  • YYC - WTP £189 (Aug 2016)
  • YYZ - WTP £189 (July 2016), CW C$723 (Nov 2015), F £499 (Mar 2017)
  • YVR - WTP £209 (Jun 2017)/C$459 (Aug 2017), CW £425 (Mar 2017), F C$900 (Mar 2016)
  • SEA - WTP $319 (Mar 2018)

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Old Dec 29, 2017, 7:04 am
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£160 WT - WT+ on LGW - JFK on 10 Jan and rtn on 15 Jan.
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Old Dec 29, 2017, 8:04 am
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GVA-LCY CHF99, Dec 2017 (for travel in Jan).
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 3:51 pm
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Just offered & accepted LHR-KEF & KEF-LHR both for £109 on a cheap econ return ticket in late Jan. A vast improvement on the prices I have previously been offered on this route
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 9:43 am
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DUS-LCY £69 for travel on April 2, 2018
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 10:18 am
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BCN-LHR £109 for 12 March Q class to Club
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 12:32 pm
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LHR-ZRH an eye-watering £149 to CE for today - rapidly declined!
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Old Jan 2, 2018, 8:57 pm
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OAK-LGW

From WTP TO CW 552 us$. Jan 1. Took it
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by Dev1980
LHR to MSY

£309 WT+ to CW. Same price each way. Late Jan outbound and inbound. Gone for it on the return but WT+ will be perfectly adequate for the daytime outbound. Retains silver for me also by upgrading.
Update: the £309 offer for WT+ to CW outbound (which I declined to accept as I judged WT+ as fine for a day flight, and I don’t need the additional TP) has been revised DOWN to £279. I don’t think £30 off is going to cause me to revisit my decision but interesting that they did it.
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Dev1980


Update: the £309 offer for WT+ to CW outbound (which I declined to accept as I judged WT+ as fine for a day flight, and I don’t need the additional TP) has been revised DOWN to £279. I don’t think £30 off is going to cause me to revisit my decision but interesting that they did it.
Update on the update: now it’s gone back up to £309.

If the BA people are watching, yes funny game. Revise it again sub-£100 and we’ll talk.
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Old Jan 3, 2018, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Dev1980


Update on the update: now it’s gone back up to £309.

If the BA people are watching, yes funny game. Revise it again sub-£100 and we’ll talk.
I'd be extremely surprised if it will go down to £209. I also don't mind WT+ on day flights although personally and especially on a nearly ten hour flight I would have taken it but at the end of the day if your happy then that's all that matters really and £300 is put to good use at the destination.
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 5:16 am
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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Originally Posted by Dev1980


Update on the update: now it’s gone back up to £309.

If the BA people are watching, yes funny game. Revise it again sub-£100 and we’ll talk.
Update on the update of the update: back down to £279.

To summarise (WTP to CW):-

- LHR to MSY - £309, then £279, then £309 again, now £279 again.
- MSY to LHR - £309 and I took it at that price.
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 10:56 am
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Are these ever offered on OB redemptions? Checked the info on the first page / wiki but didn’t see On Business mentioned anywhere.

Thanks!
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Old Jan 6, 2018, 11:19 am
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A friend had £199 offers for his flight to and from LPA in December 2017.

Being a tight millionaire, he stayed in ET with a spare seat next to him, probably due to TS and the Silver card I gifted him.
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Old Jan 8, 2018, 5:01 pm
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SFO->LHR in February: WT+ to CW offered at US$631, and then $580 for the return to SFO. Took the outbound, as it seems a reasonable price (and the lowest I've seen on this route)

NOTE: Often, I've found that these POUG's come with more flexibility than the original fare. My former WT+ ticket did not allow refunds for example, but after buying this upgrade, the "revised" terms allow full refunds, less $200 per direction, so definitely a plus..
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Old Jan 9, 2018, 10:24 am
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I was offered £352 for WT+ to CW LHR-BOS today (while checking in, the flight is tomorrow). I didn't take it, as it is a daytime flight and £7/TP is a lot.

I think the offer a few weeks ago for the same booking was about £450 but I can't remember exactly.

I updated the wiki with this datum.
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