UUA to WT+ (MMB showing Full TPs)
Jun 29, 2016, 11:36 am
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UUA to WT+ (MMB showing Full TPs)
Ok guys, your thoughts and experiences are required.
Currently 380 points away from Gold renewal and I have been booked in WT ft a work trip - which was promptly upgraded to WT+ using Avios.
However MMB now shows that I will earn 180 tier points instead of 70 previously.
This can't be right, can it?
I need to know what I will receive as I about to book a TP run to take me over but do not want to have excess TPs as I will not reach 2.5k.
Currently 380 points away from Gold renewal and I have been booked in WT ft a work trip - which was promptly upgraded to WT+ using Avios.
However MMB now shows that I will earn 180 tier points instead of 70 previously.
This can't be right, can it?
I need to know what I will receive as I about to book a TP run to take me over but do not want to have excess TPs as I will not reach 2.5k.
Jun 29, 2016, 11:49 am
#3
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My experience with UUAs is that they almost always show the wrong TPs in MMB. I think it's maybe continued to show correctly like 10% of the time.
Depending on how the UUA is done - you *might* be lucky enough to get the full TPs - but it's rare.
I'd not count them if you have to book the TPs now.
Depending on how the UUA is done - you *might* be lucky enough to get the full TPs - but it's rare.
I'd not count them if you have to book the TPs now.
Jun 29, 2016, 11:55 am
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Better not risk it, I will plan a TP run as if I am not going to get the points.
Jun 29, 2016, 12:13 pm
#8
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the "TP/avios you will learn" feature on the MMB is notoriously buggy and not very precise. Specifically with any kind of reservation that is not a straightforwardly class bought = class to be flown, such us UUA or POUG etc etc
You will most likely earn TP/Avios corresponding to the underling class you bought with cash, which is WT
You will most likely earn TP/Avios corresponding to the underling class you bought with cash, which is WT
Jun 29, 2016, 12:26 pm
#9
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You do not say where you are flying, but I assume that the 180 is the correct TP for the flight in WTP. If you pay for an upgrade (either with cash or avios) then you earn for the cabin travelled in, not the original booking, so it is correct. In my experience these are added correctly by the system after travel.
Jun 29, 2016, 12:28 pm
#10
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I don't think this is correct. It applies only if you upgrade with cash, but if you use Avios to UUA, you get TP/avios only for the underlaying class bought with cash.
Jun 29, 2016, 1:07 pm
#11
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MMB always seems to show higher class in error. But recent UUA booking (J - F) showed as F TPs in MMB; credited as 0 TPs/Avios (as if it had been a full reward booking), but BAEC quickly corrected to underlying booking (i.e. J.) I think this may have been because it was a TA booking originally - so BA had re-issued the ticket when I upgraded, and done so from an Avios redemption bucket.
Jun 29, 2016, 1:58 pm
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You do not say where you are flying, but I assume that the 180 is the correct TP for the flight in WTP. If you pay for an upgrade (either with cash or avios) then you earn for the cabin travelled in, not the original booking, so it is correct. In my experience these are added correctly by the system after travel.
Jun 29, 2016, 2:54 pm
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You do not say where you are flying, but I assume that the 180 is the correct TP for the flight in WTP. If you pay for an upgrade (either with cash or avios) then you earn for the cabin travelled in, not the original booking, so it is correct. In my experience these are added correctly by the system after travel.
Off to est Africa and was originally booked by a travel agent in WT so earning 35 TPs in each direction. Upgraded using Avios to WT+ and now showing 90 TPs in each direction.
Here's hoping for a POUG to CW in both directions. That would net me 140 in each direction.
Jun 29, 2016, 3:09 pm
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You won't get a POUG if travel agency, but AUP should be possible. Formally you would still only get 35 TPs if AUP (or POUG'd) but indeed some people have found alternative scenarios are possible. MMB gets it wrong consistently in this area, UuA normally correctly posts as the revenue ticket.
Jun 29, 2016, 3:10 pm
#15
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If you upgrade your ticket using Avios (UuA / MFU) then you get the Tier Points and Avios of the purchased ticket, so if you upgrade a World Traveller Plus ticket to Club World, you get the World Traveller Plus Tier Points and Avios.