NRT red-eye and sleep
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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NRT red-eye and sleep
Heading out to Tokyo on the BA5 in a couple of weeks for a five-day work trip. On previous occasions, have always struggled with the time difference going to the Far East, often taking days and days to adjust. Any tips from people that regularly do this journey, ideally on getting to sleep at a weird time (the flight leaves London early afternoon and basically lands about midnight GMT)? Will be travelling Club, so will have a bed. Ideally need to be alert when I land as will be heading to meetings (so no "drink your way to sleep" tips, please).
#2
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Heading out to Tokyo on the BA5 in a couple of weeks for a five-day work trip. On previous occasions, have always struggled with the time difference going to the Far East, often taking days and days to adjust. Any tips from people that regularly do this journey, ideally on getting to sleep at a weird time (the flight leaves London early afternoon and basically lands about midnight GMT)? Will be travelling Club, so will have a bed. Ideally need to be alert when I land as will be heading to meetings (so no "drink your way to sleep" tips, please).
I went to Sydney over NYE and used: http://www.jetlagrooster.com/. I followed the instructions religiously and not suffered from any jet lag at all. Worth trying it...
By the way, I would start adjusting to the new time a few days in advance..
#5
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I used to do this route every month for many years. My routine was to get up extra early for a couple of days before leaving and then once on the aircraft adjust my watch to Japanese time immediately after the first meal and then go to sleep. As tempting as it sometimes is to load up on booze, I found that the best I ever felt was on flights where I had no alcohol at all (but about a litre of water on that flight). I also took 5mg of melatonin after the meal service on the aircraft and then again at bedtime in Tokyo. It is available over the counter in the US (and elsewhere) but I think not in the UK, and I found it to be very effective.
Then I used to have a quick shower (either at hotel or company apartment) and change of clothes before heading straight to work. However hard I tried I always hit a wall about 15:30 Japan time, but once I had pushed through that I was pretty OK. I also generally found that the first night's sleep was better than the second, but after that settled in quite well.
Hope that helps - but I'm afraid in my experience there's no infallible cure!
Then I used to have a quick shower (either at hotel or company apartment) and change of clothes before heading straight to work. However hard I tried I always hit a wall about 15:30 Japan time, but once I had pushed through that I was pretty OK. I also generally found that the first night's sleep was better than the second, but after that settled in quite well.
Hope that helps - but I'm afraid in my experience there's no infallible cure!
#6
Join Date: Apr 2007
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If you don't have time for a shower at hotel, the public showers at Narita can be very useful. I used to use them a lot when I arrived on the BA5.
Good place to change clothes and refresh a bit before heading into Tokyo.
Good place to change clothes and refresh a bit before heading into Tokyo.
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For dealing with jet-lag on flights to NRT/HND:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ay-flight.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ay-flight.html
#9
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I tend to sleep ok the first night and wake at 4-5am, and then it gets a little better.
I actually try to get a day flight back, and although very boring, by the time I get home at 9am I sleep for 10 hours.
Jet lag is an occupational pain in the ... for me given I go to Asia every 6 weeks or so.
#10
Join Date: Jul 2015
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This ^^ I did this trip 5x last year and this is what helped me most - albeit I change my watch when I get on. Forget what time is midnight in the UK, by the time meal service is done it is getting on for midnight in TYO so go to sleep Melatonin also works for me, on top of a couple of drinks. Still have long enough of a flight for any effects to wear off and wake up at breakfast time. First day is not exactly a breeze but make it through and you'll want to sleep naturally by the time you've finished in the office for the day, which does make the rest of the week a lot more manageable.