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Old Jan 19, 2016, 7:40 am
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BGI Award Non Availability

For several years I have been redeeming AA miles for Club or First awards on BA from BGI to LGW in early December. This year there is no availability in either class on any date in November or December with AA miles or Avios. Is this reflecting higher passenger loads to/from Barbados or is there any chance of award inventory being released closer to December?

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Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:11 am
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I agree completely. The reward availability in Club and First to Barbados has been switched off by BA. A disgrace. When we fly with BA frequently, to effectively end First and Club availability which is a location we want to holiday toit is infuriating.

BA have all but stopped any First or Business reward availability beyond November 10th 2016.
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Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:15 am
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Two CW seats will have been released at midnight every day at T-355 days as per BA's guarantee. If you are not seeing them, then they've already gone.
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Old Jan 23, 2016, 9:16 am
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BA have a simple policy - 2 seats are released in club on D-355.

Once they go - they go. They might release more, they might not.

The fact there is only one day in November with any availability in club (the 18th) reflects that this is a very popular route.
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Old Jan 25, 2016, 3:21 am
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Last year (December 2015) I was able to UuA from WTP to CW on my outbound flight but nothing opened up for the return so I paid to upgrade to CW.

I booked the original WTP flights in January and the CW avios availability opened up in March, the outbound flight was on the 5th December. I kept an eye on it, checking weekly, and as soon as I saw availability I snapped it up! Many people will book at -355 but plans change etc. so I'd say it's worth regularly checking as something may yet open up.

For my trip this year I thought I'd save myself the bother and just book revenue CW
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 11:46 am
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British Airways have not released ANY CW or First seat to Barbados BGI in nearly three months. I monitor this route every day and also use industry tools to monitor release of fares.

Both the outbound and return sectors have no Z or U availability for departures beyond 10 November 2016, nor have they released any since the D-355 of that date, ie since late November last year.

To not release any CW or First redemption seats on this route is a disgrace.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 11:54 am
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I am also getting ridiculous prices for WT+ prices for October. Not sure what is going on.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by pointcrazy
British Airways have not released ANY CW or First seat to Barbados BGI in nearly three months. I monitor this route every day and also use industry tools to monitor release of fares.

Both the outbound and return sectors have no Z or U availability for departures beyond 10 November 2016, nor have they released any since the D-355 of that date, ie since late November last year.

To not release any CW or First redemption seats on this route is a disgrace.
You must have missed the CW redemptions being released as mentioned unthread. BA guarantee to release 2 CW seats for redemption on each flight. BGI in particular and the Carribean in general are always hugely popular in the premium cabins November-March.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Bobbie2013
You must have missed the CW redemptions being released as mentioned unthread. BA guarantee to release 2 CW seats for redemption on each flight. BGI in particular and the Carribean in general are always hugely popular in the premium cabins November-March.
They are NOT being released. Trust me. I fly this route regularly and have for years. I monitor it daily both through website and through alerting tools. The minute one comes available I would know.

I wish people would stop saying "BA guarantee to release 2 CW seats for redemption on each flight". It is not true, and it has not been for some time. It is just parrot repetition of an OLD policy that whilst is still out there is no longer being observed by. BA.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by pointcrazy
They are NOT being released. Trust me. I fly this route regularly and have for years. I monitor it daily both through website and through alerting tools. The minute one comes available I would know.

I wish people would stop saying "BA guarantee to release 2 CW seats for redemption on each flight". It is not true, and it has not been for some time. It is just parrot repetition of an OLD policy.
It's still very much a policy and as for being old it's less than 12 months, it only came into force in April 2015.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 12:12 pm
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Are you checking the time when they are released? I.e. 00.00 / 01.00 hrs I've seen consistently the tickets being released in even the toughest routes; SYD LAX and these are often gone in seconds
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by pointcrazy
I monitor it daily both through website and through alerting tools. The minute one comes available I would know.
Unless you're using particularly specialised alerting tools that most of us cannot get access to, you're unlikely to see the two U class seats that are released every day. The alerting services that I use only check once or twice a day, which is not often enough to see those, given how quickly they are booked.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 1:12 pm
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Something radically changed in November/December. Nothing being released in those classes. BA have in effect turned off the tap.

I have been booking BGI redemptions for over 10 years now; never, ever has it been like this. Historically you would be able to choose your date long after D-355. Say even 3 months down the line for U or Z and almost any date. I book up to 4 redemption trips a year to BGI. It has never been like this.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by pointcrazy
Something radically changed in November/December. Nothing being released in those classes. BA have in effect turned off the tap.

I have been booking BGI redemptions for over 10 years now; never, ever has it been like this. Historically you would be able to choose your date long after D-355. Say even 3 months down the line for U or Z and almost any date. I book up to 4 redemption trips a year to BGI. It has never been like this.
There are 2 J seats for every flight. They are released and probably snapped up almost immediately. If your 'tool' only checks every 6 hours, the chances are it will never see any availability.
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Old Feb 28, 2016, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by pointcrazy
Something radically changed in November/December. Nothing being released in those classes. BA have in effect turned off the tap.

I have been booking BGI redemptions for over 10 years now; never, ever has it been like this. Historically you would be able to choose your date long after D-355. Say even 3 months down the line for U or Z and almost any date. I book up to 4 redemption trips a year to BGI. It has never been like this.
I can see why this is really frustrating but the reason you're not seeing the availability is that everyone now knows when the reward seats are released. In the past they could be released at -355, 6 months out, 3 months out etc. Now people will sit up at 1am UK time at -355 to snap the seats up (I'm honestly not exaggerating, I have several colleagues who do this for Caribbean/Indian Ocean routes several times a year).
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