Annual Travel Insurance and Avios
#1
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London
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Annual Travel Insurance and Avios
Do any Annual Travel Policies have and provisions for refunded Avios if they have been used for making the booking?
Any recommnedations for a good Annual Worldwide travel policy would be welcome. I do have the BA Amex Premium Plus Card.
TIA
Any recommnedations for a good Annual Worldwide travel policy would be welcome. I do have the BA Amex Premium Plus Card.
TIA
#2
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North Yorkshire, UK / Pasadena CA
Programs: BA Silver
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Check out John Lewis. Their most expensive policy has good protection. LV is also worth looking at. IME travel insurance is a product where you get what you pay for. That doesn't necessarily mean the most expensive is best for your circumstances. People's needs vary, so it's important to work out what cover is essential, what cover is desirable, and which risks you're comfortable exposing yourself to.
#3
Join Date: Jun 2003
Programs: BA, IHG, 5C
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BA and avios.com will sell you policies that cover avios. Don't forget that avios redemptions are cancellable up to 24hrs out (and then there's perhaps the events beyond your control clause) so it's limited how often you'd need this. avios.com is not specific about this, but ba.com policies only cover the avios inside that 24hr window.
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
#4
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: UK. BAEC AAdvantage
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BA and avios.com will sell you policies that cover avios. Don't forget that avios redemptions are cancellable up to 24hrs out (and then there's perhaps the events beyond your control clause) so it's limited how often you'd need this. avios.com is not specific about this, but ba.com policies only cover the avios inside that 24hr window.
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
#5
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London
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Remember Avios have no monetary value. So, whilst I don't know all the policies out there, I'd find it extremely hard to imagine one that recovers Avios for you.
Check out John Lewis. Their most expensive policy has good protection. LV is also worth looking at. IME travel insurance is a product where you get what you pay for. That doesn't necessarily mean the most expensive is best for your circumstances. People's needs vary, so it's important to work out what cover is essential, what cover is desirable, and which risks you're comfortable exposing yourself to.
Check out John Lewis. Their most expensive policy has good protection. LV is also worth looking at. IME travel insurance is a product where you get what you pay for. That doesn't necessarily mean the most expensive is best for your circumstances. People's needs vary, so it's important to work out what cover is essential, what cover is desirable, and which risks you're comfortable exposing yourself to.
BA and avios.com will sell you policies that cover avios. Don't forget that avios redemptions are cancellable up to 24hrs out (and then there's perhaps the events beyond your control clause) so it's limited how often you'd need this. avios.com is not specific about this, but ba.com policies only cover the avios inside that 24hr window.
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
Raffles discussed this recently: http://www.headforpoints.com/2015/03...mption-ticket/
In the comments someone says they got 1.5k from Amex insurance for a 100k avios loss. (Bear in mind the BA PP Amex doesn't come with proper insurance.)
Good point, I hadn't thought about the 2-4-1 scenario!
#6
Join Date: Jun 2003
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What would you want in these circumstances? I'm not sure any policy would offer you a refund of the return leg (whether cash or avios). They'd be expecting to fly you home when able, so I don't see that this is specific to avios.
#7
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Fair point. I was not looking for anything specific, but I know it is always worth asking questions in thie forum thanks to the responses from helpful people. Thanks.
#8
Join Date: Oct 2007
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The Plat's not cheap at 450 per year, but the travel insurance cover for three families plus the annual savings on car rental add-ons and the odd Priority Pass lounge access probably just about covers it for me.
#9
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You need to be careful if buying a policy via avios.com as they only cover avios.com avios booking and not BAEC. I called them recently to confirm this.
I also called BA about their insurance policy and they said if you need to cancel flights in the last 24hrs they will refund the "cash value" of the tickets.
I also called BA about their insurance policy and they said if you need to cancel flights in the last 24hrs they will refund the "cash value" of the tickets.
#10
Join Date: Jun 2013
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My annual travel insurance policy says:
"If you booked your flight or accommodation with Avios or similar promotional
schemes we will pay for the cost of replacing the used points or miles or, if
replacing points or miles is not possible, a monetary alternative at the current
published rate."
Which I take to mean they will cough up at BA's published rate of avios purchase. It comes with an RBS bank account which costs 288 p.a., covers the whole family and gives up to 10k per person cancellation and 250 per person delay beyond 4hrs, with optional cancellation after 6hrs, which all adds up to a fairly stress-free start to any trip.
Also I get a priority pass, which I have started to use for a decent breakfast at the EDI No1. traveller lounge!
"If you booked your flight or accommodation with Avios or similar promotional
schemes we will pay for the cost of replacing the used points or miles or, if
replacing points or miles is not possible, a monetary alternative at the current
published rate."
Which I take to mean they will cough up at BA's published rate of avios purchase. It comes with an RBS bank account which costs 288 p.a., covers the whole family and gives up to 10k per person cancellation and 250 per person delay beyond 4hrs, with optional cancellation after 6hrs, which all adds up to a fairly stress-free start to any trip.
Also I get a priority pass, which I have started to use for a decent breakfast at the EDI No1. traveller lounge!