What happens on a free upgrade from CW to First?
Mar 10, 2015, 5:24 am
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What happens on a free upgrade from CW to First?
Just got an email from BA saying that if I phone and book a CW ticket I can get a free upgrade to First on one leg of my journey.
Let's take LHR-DXB-LHR as an example. If I booked CW I would get 2 x 140 TPs = 280 TPs for that return journey.
If BA gave me a free upgrade on the LHR-DXB leg, would I get 210 TPs for that leg?
If so, this would mean 350 TPs in total (210 + 140) - tipping me over to Silver and I could have a short break in DXB at the same time.
Let's take LHR-DXB-LHR as an example. If I booked CW I would get 2 x 140 TPs = 280 TPs for that return journey.
If BA gave me a free upgrade on the LHR-DXB leg, would I get 210 TPs for that leg?
If so, this would mean 350 TPs in total (210 + 140) - tipping me over to Silver and I could have a short break in DXB at the same time.
Mar 10, 2015, 5:27 am
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BRU - DOH - DXB would give you 400 on QR if the TP are an issue.
As for the tier points, I think it depends on the eventual class that the 'first' leg is booked into. I believe they would be 'A' class fares with 210 TP per leg; but if BA booked into 'J' and assigned you a seat in the first cabin, you would only get 140.
As for the tier points, I think it depends on the eventual class that the 'first' leg is booked into. I believe they would be 'A' class fares with 210 TP per leg; but if BA booked into 'J' and assigned you a seat in the first cabin, you would only get 140.
Mar 10, 2015, 5:47 am
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Generally, yes, you will get F tier points for the upgraded leg, but you will have to fly ex-UK and pay published fares. This particular upgrade offer does not apply to Corporate discounted rates. To qualify you must book into R, C, D, or J class, so it will not be cheap.
Mar 10, 2015, 5:51 am
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I've yet to manage to take advantage of this offer. On the rare times I'm about to make a CW booking in an eligible class, I seem to fall foul of the small print - either because I'm ex-EU or have a non-BA sector on the booking. I was also told I couldn't do it on an open jaw return but it turned out that was a mistake by the agent and BA wouldn't retroactively process the upgrade after I'd booked.
So now, I don't even open those emails. It just winds me up
So now, I don't even open those emails. It just winds me up
Mar 10, 2015, 6:16 am
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Not a good deal - just spoke to BA. Ticket needs to be semi-flexible or fully-flexible. 2,800+ GBP for LHR-DXB-LHR to take advanatage of an F upgrade on one leg. Might look at the BA sale that ends in a few hours for options...
Mar 10, 2015, 6:23 am
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Save your money, if you're lucky it might cover POUG/AUP ?
Mar 10, 2015, 7:04 am
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BRU - DOH - DXB would give you 400 on QR if the TP are an issue.
As for the tier points, I think it depends on the eventual class that the 'first' leg is booked into. I believe they would be 'A' class fares with 210 TP per leg; but if BA booked into 'J' and assigned you a seat in the first cabin, you would only get 140.
As for the tier points, I think it depends on the eventual class that the 'first' leg is booked into. I believe they would be 'A' class fares with 210 TP per leg; but if BA booked into 'J' and assigned you a seat in the first cabin, you would only get 140.
The fare rules are designed to force you to use an A-fare in one direction of the round trip and a J-fare in the other.
Mar 10, 2015, 7:11 am
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Apologies for asking a really dumb question: where would I book such a flight? On the BA website or the Qatar Airways website? Also, how would the Avios/TP be credited to my BAEC account if I didn't book it on the BA website?
Mar 10, 2015, 7:14 am
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When it asks for a frequent flier account, enter your BAEC number. Your status and details will be exchanged with QR. Oneworld Ruby will appear on your boarding pass.
If this does not happen, show your BAEC card at the check in desk and ask for your frequent flier number to be added to the booking.
DO NOT login with your QR account (if you have one) at any time.
Every night (or every few days) QR and BA will exchange all the data they have about who was on each other's flights. Somehow that gets back to BAEC and they award you the appropriate points and Avios.
Mar 10, 2015, 7:18 am
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That is the f price lhr-dxb in say april anyway, pointless! If you want tps, i see qr cost under 900 quid bru-doh-dxb as mentioned above. Outbound is in j to doh then F (a fare) to dxb or the other dubai airport on a 787 or a320.
Last edited by jcm9000; Mar 10, 2015 at 7:29 am
Mar 10, 2015, 7:23 am
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There is currently a sale on this route (seems to happen frequently) so you could get those 400TPs for £670 ^.
Mar 10, 2015, 7:40 am
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Thanks all, will look into it. One other question that's been bugging me: if I were to price this route on the Qatar Airways site, how could I find out the TPs that would be awarded to my BAEC account?
Mar 10, 2015, 8:20 am
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The forum dashboard (stickied at top of the ba board) has a superb guide for avios an tp earning on all ow flights. Item 6 shows the tps earned, so for what has been described above with qr you get 140 each way to doh, then 60 on the short f hop to dxb each way, 400 TPs.
Mar 10, 2015, 8:24 am
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The forum dashboard (stickied at top of the ba board) has a superb guide for avios an tp earning on all ow flights. Item 6 shows the tps earned, so for what has been described above with qr you get 140 each way to doh, then 60 on the short f hop to dxb each way, 400 TPs.