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Old Nov 14, 2014, 8:08 am
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im in the same boat but thankfully OWE for ten years now so when i switch next year i can manage the benefits.

my US domestic question though is this: while 98% of my US travel is JFK-SFO/LAX there are rare times i must connect. how does BA calculate tier points on a paid first ticket on something like JFK-DFW-SFO (for example). do they do it on the entire journey or on a segment basis?
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by VSLover
my US domestic question though is this: while 98% of my US travel is JFK-SFO/LAX there are rare times i must connect. how does BA calculate tier points on a paid first ticket on something like JFK-DFW-SFO (for example). do they do it on the entire journey or on a segment basis?
Assuming it shows as different flight numbers, per segment.

Any TP runners here would immediately reject JFK-DFW-SFO as a routing and would insist on transferring at LAX (for instance) instead. You want >2000mi sectors for more TPs.
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by VSLover
im in the same boat but thankfully OWE for ten years now so when i switch next year i can manage the benefits.

my US domestic question though is this: while 98% of my US travel is JFK-SFO/LAX there are rare times i must connect. how does BA calculate tier points on a paid first ticket on something like JFK-DFW-SFO (for example). do they do it on the entire journey or on a segment basis?
Per segment: which makes flights >2k miles in F very lucrative (see tier point run thread for details). In your example: you would end up with more miles on AA (than direct) but fewer TPs on BA.

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Old Nov 14, 2014, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by VSLover
im in the same boat but thankfully OWE for ten years now so when i switch next year i can manage the benefits.

my US domestic question though is this: while 98% of my US travel is JFK-SFO/LAX there are rare times i must connect. how does BA calculate tier points on a paid first ticket on something like JFK-DFW-SFO (for example). do they do it on the entire journey or on a segment basis?
Practically, it is by flight number
JFK-DFW and DFW-SFO are likely to have different flight numbers and are different segments.
However many US airlines can keep the same flight number even though there is a stop-over along the way. This counts as one flight; not two.

It the same with BA's own flights. LHR-Nassau-Grand Cayman counts as one flight if you stay on the plane flying on the one ticket.

Care is needed when booking flights on AA
JFK-LAS in F counts as 210 Tier Points
JFK-DFW- LAS in F counts as 60 x 2 = 120 Tier Points
Quiet a difference here.
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 11:20 am
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Thank you all for the input. It sounds like I will need to earn it the old fashion way, but can accelerate it through creative routing and putting more money into higher fare types.

Does anyone have a link for the fare type breakdowns? I noticed the BA site doesnt show the fare type when booking.

Thanks again.
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 11:28 am
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You may wish to have a peruse of http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...l#post22230550

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Old Nov 14, 2014, 1:19 pm
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thanks too--good to know.

i do not need to do TP runs luckily and will make it on my own, but sometimes the last min ticket JFK-SFO is so outrageous i cannot get it for the work travel caps but first w a connection is tolerable sometimes. but you all confirmed my suspicion on how TPs are calculated.
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 8:38 pm
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