Jan 20, 2015, 5:28 am
Last edit by: hillrider
LHR charges for the cost of this screening to the passengers. For example, if you transited LHR on a round-trip in economy class from the US, you paid GBP 54.39 (USD 83.10) for this (on the ticket under tax/fee "UB").
EU Regulations state that "transfer passengers and their cabin baggage may be exempted from screening, if: (a) they arrive from a Member State [...] or (b) they arrive from a third country where the security standards applied are recognised as equivalent to the common basic standards [...] [E.g. the USA]"
SECURITY CONTROL both ways:
NO SECURITY CONTROL either way (Schengen to USA or v.v.):
NO SECURITY CONTROL from Schengen to USA (control on the way back from USA to Schengen):
EU Regulations state that "transfer passengers and their cabin baggage may be exempted from screening, if: (a) they arrive from a Member State [...] or (b) they arrive from a third country where the security standards applied are recognised as equivalent to the common basic standards [...] [E.g. the USA]"
Security control when connecting between USA and Schengen flights (European airports competing for LHR traffic)
SECURITY CONTROL both ways:
- LHR
NO SECURITY CONTROL either way (Schengen to USA or v.v.):
- FRA (A/Z-gates only) [Lufthansa hub]
- MUC [Lufthansa hub]
- AMS (from mid 2015 when reconstruction works finish) [KLM hub]
- HEL
- ZRH [SWISS hub]
- CPH
NO SECURITY CONTROL from Schengen to USA (control on the way back from USA to Schengen):
- VIE
- WAW
- ARN
- OSL
T5 security is a total disaster! [inc Fast Track issues]
Jan 4, 2016, 1:24 pm
#1396
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I was totally amazed and dare I say delighted by North security this morning.
A new Fast Track entrance corridor has sprung up over Christmas and at 0700 this morning, there were two of us in the Fast Track security area - probably the fastest I've ever been through LHR security.
A new Fast Track entrance corridor has sprung up over Christmas and at 0700 this morning, there were two of us in the Fast Track security area - probably the fastest I've ever been through LHR security.
Jan 4, 2016, 3:23 pm
#1398
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More information on the new North, and some photos, here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-entrance.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-entrance.html
May 27, 2016, 4:21 am
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Jun 7, 2016, 5:44 am
#1402
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The rules for UK airports are that liquids should be <100ml, and all be in a sealed transparent bag.
So, if the staff are insisting on this, they're upholding the rules. No problem there!
Jun 7, 2016, 5:47 am
#1403
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I'm reasonably well travelled and I've never once been asked to remove these items from an amenity kit. Multiple times through Singapore, Sydney, Perth, Hong Kong and many US airports among others without an issue.
Absolutely this does not remove from the fact that LAGs less than 100mL are supposed to be placed in a separate bag. I just find it interesting that LHR T5 is the only place I've ever encountered it.
Jun 7, 2016, 6:00 am
#1404
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Possibly officious and overbearing; possibly not.
I'm reasonably well travelled and I've never once been asked to remove these items from an amenity kit. Multiple times through Singapore, Sydney, Perth, Hong Kong and many US airports among others without an issue.
Absolutely this does not remove from the fact that LAGs less than 100mL are supposed to be placed in a separate bag. I just find it interesting that LHR T5 is the only place I've ever encountered it.
I'm reasonably well travelled and I've never once been asked to remove these items from an amenity kit. Multiple times through Singapore, Sydney, Perth, Hong Kong and many US airports among others without an issue.
Absolutely this does not remove from the fact that LAGs less than 100mL are supposed to be placed in a separate bag. I just find it interesting that LHR T5 is the only place I've ever encountered it.
Sorry to contradict but it is my experience that you have to throw it out at US airports if you have not decanted the amenities into a plastic bag. It has always been an issue at US airports and one that many carriers warn about for transiting passengers
Jun 7, 2016, 6:08 am
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On a side note, I'm interested in learning how a gel, like a moisturiser, can be detected.
Jun 7, 2016, 6:17 am
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In response to the last few posts:
I have my leather 'toiletries bag' which I use to hold everything. I keep some of the liquids-bags at home and so put all of my mini-bottles (+ toothpaste etc) into the plastic bag when packing and place that on the top 'layer' of the washbag.
I leave it unzipped and pack it in the corner of the roll-aboard.
Walk up to security > rollaboard into tray > unzip corner > yank out plastic bag > push tray away;
> pull out second tray > drop in plastic bag and add watch, belt, shoes etc. > push away;
> New tray > Plonk briefcase bag > extract laptop/ipad > push away
> New tray > Electronics
DONE
^
I have my leather 'toiletries bag' which I use to hold everything. I keep some of the liquids-bags at home and so put all of my mini-bottles (+ toothpaste etc) into the plastic bag when packing and place that on the top 'layer' of the washbag.
I leave it unzipped and pack it in the corner of the roll-aboard.
Walk up to security > rollaboard into tray > unzip corner > yank out plastic bag > push tray away;
> pull out second tray > drop in plastic bag and add watch, belt, shoes etc. > push away;
> New tray > Plonk briefcase bag > extract laptop/ipad > push away
> New tray > Electronics
DONE
^
Jun 7, 2016, 7:13 am
#1407
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Jun 7, 2016, 7:23 am
#1408
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I never bother with the clear plastic bags - frankly I dont see the point of this rule. I've never once been challenged on this.
On the occasions when they want to look at some container (eg half empty sun cream) they didnt mention that it wasnt in a sealable plastic bag
On the occasions when they want to look at some container (eg half empty sun cream) they didnt mention that it wasnt in a sealable plastic bag
Jun 7, 2016, 9:07 am
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I never bother with the clear plastic bags - frankly I dont see the point of this rule. I've never once been challenged on this.
On the occasions when they want to look at some container (eg half empty sun cream) they didnt mention that it wasnt in a sealable plastic bag
On the occasions when they want to look at some container (eg half empty sun cream) they didnt mention that it wasnt in a sealable plastic bag