Using Gold upgrade for 2 voucher
Jun 27, 2014, 10:13 am
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Using Gold upgrade for 2 voucher
Hi all
After all my flying last year, I now have a GUF2 to use. My chosen companion knows quite a bit about these; but has asked me to check something with the collective wisdom of this group. I must admit I don't fully understand the question, so forgive me if it doesn't make sense, but this is what is asked..
If it is not possible to book a particular flight through BA (because there is no avios availibility), can it still be done through a travel agent if the lowest fare in the class upgrading to is still available. Or does that only apply to the Amex companion vouchers?
(Specifically, looking to book in Club World and upgrade to First)
Hope this makes sense and thanks in advance for your advice.
Cheers
TT
After all my flying last year, I now have a GUF2 to use. My chosen companion knows quite a bit about these; but has asked me to check something with the collective wisdom of this group. I must admit I don't fully understand the question, so forgive me if it doesn't make sense, but this is what is asked..
If it is not possible to book a particular flight through BA (because there is no avios availibility), can it still be done through a travel agent if the lowest fare in the class upgrading to is still available. Or does that only apply to the Amex companion vouchers?
(Specifically, looking to book in Club World and upgrade to First)
Hope this makes sense and thanks in advance for your advice.
Cheers
TT
Jun 27, 2014, 10:22 am
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If it's an Avios booking you want to use the GUF2 upgrade on that is done through BA obviously and there must be redemption availability in the class you want to upgrade to.
If you want to purchase a revenue ticket and upgrade that, it does not require Avios availability since it books into a revenue fare, and that can only be booked through a TA.
Does that answer your question or did I misunderstand it?
If it's an Avios booking you want to use the GUF2 upgrade on that is done through BA obviously and there must be redemption availability in the class you want to upgrade to.
If you want to purchase a revenue ticket and upgrade that, it does not require Avios availability since it books into a revenue fare, and that can only be booked through a TA.
Does that answer your question or did I misunderstand it?
Jun 27, 2014, 10:23 am
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Yes the GUF2 can be used through a TA and requires the lowest revenue fare bucket availability rather than award inventory.
There are plenty of threads with info if you search for GUF2.
Only if applied after booking or booked through BA (award or revenue booking). If you book through a TA you only need T/I/A availability.
There are plenty of threads with info if you search for GUF2.
Only if applied after booking or booked through BA (award or revenue booking). If you book through a TA you only need T/I/A availability.
Jun 27, 2014, 10:26 am
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Wow, thanks all for the speedy replies. Yes I am looking to pay for club and upgrade to first. So it sounds as if a TA can do it.
Cheers
TT
Cheers
TT
Jun 27, 2014, 10:32 am
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Yes the GUF2 can be used through a TA and requires the lowest revenue fare bucket availability rather than award inventory.
There are plenty of threads with info if you search for GUF2.
Only if applied after booking or booked through BA (award or revenue booking). If you book through a TA you only need T/I/A availability.
There are plenty of threads with info if you search for GUF2.
Only if applied after booking or booked through BA (award or revenue booking). If you book through a TA you only need T/I/A availability.
Jun 27, 2014, 11:20 am
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Hi again
Are there only certain travel agents who can do this, as clearly they need access to your BAEC account to get the voucher details? How would I locate one?
Do both people have to be present to make the booking?
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
Are there only certain travel agents who can do this, as clearly they need access to your BAEC account to get the voucher details? How would I locate one?
Do both people have to be present to make the booking?
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
Jun 27, 2014, 11:28 am
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Do both people have to be present to make the booking?
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
That complex itinenary wouldn't work. A booking can only contain BA metal flights or BA franchise operated flights only - the JFK-BOS leg would be on AA.
The full conditions are here if you want to read.
Jun 27, 2014, 11:30 am
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Are there only certain travel agents who can do this, as clearly they need access to your BAEC account to get the voucher details? How would I locate one?
Do both people have to be present to make the booking?
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
Do both people have to be present to make the booking?
And finally, can they book "complex" itineraries - for example MAN-LHR-JFK-BOS (where paying for business and the first upgrade is only relevant for the LHR-JFK leg (and indeed no business at all in the UK domestic hop!))
Cheers
TT
Not sure what you mean by both people present, but no you can make it just like any other TA booking.
Yes, but you cannot have any other carriers on the booking (so no JFK-BOS).
Jun 27, 2014, 2:54 pm
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Thanks both - so to clarify the entire booking has to be on BA operated flights, and not code-share ? (or is it just that other legs can't be upgraded)
Cheers
TT
Cheers
TT
Jun 27, 2014, 2:58 pm
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7.Gold Upgrade vouchers are available for British Airways and franchise operated flights only. Partner and codeshare flights excluded.
8.Gold Upgrade vouchers cannot be applied to a booking containing any other carriers than British Airways.
8.Gold Upgrade vouchers cannot be applied to a booking containing any other carriers than British Airways.
Jun 27, 2014, 2:59 pm
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A booking can only contain BA metal flights or BA franchise operated flights only (e.g. Comair). If there is a BA codeshare on another carrier on the booking then you can't use your MFU on that booking.
Jun 27, 2014, 3:26 pm
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Thanks, I appreciate your patience, and sorry to go on ...
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
Jun 27, 2014, 3:32 pm
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Thanks, I appreciate your patience, and sorry to go on ...
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
Yes you can apply it to any single booking, LAX-LHR-SIN-SYD return would also work.
Jun 27, 2014, 10:50 pm
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Thanks, I appreciate your patience, and sorry to go on ...
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
but this is odd because I know my friend has managed to use his GUF2 voucher on a booking that also involved an AA Flight - this was booked several months ago so the rules may have changed - it was booked through the BA call centre. Or is it different with a TA.
And on a related note; if not able to use on internal US flights, is it valid instead on ex-EU BA flights (eg AMS-LHR-JFK)
Cheers
TT
He used Amex Travel Services but I don't think he knows how he managed to get his trip ticketed!