BA codeshare on Flybe/Loganair Scottish flights
Apr 21, 2014, 1:51 pm
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BA codeshare on Flybe/Loganair Scottish flights
Just done a Jolly up to the Orkneys from London. Loved all the local Loganair crews , especially when the pilot took us on a scenic detour round the old Man of Hoy on a sunny evening BUT what is the point of the BA codeshare when it doesn't function in terms of seat allocation and on line check in? Surely a bit of software could sort this or am I being naive. it's like BA claims the bookability but there it stops. What do the Locals make of this arrangement? I also miss the BA colours on the twin Otter!
Apr 21, 2014, 2:03 pm
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It's typical when you book a codeshare that the seat allocation and check-in is handled by the operating airline. As Loganair operates as a Flybe franchise then it's likely Flybe systems are used for this.
Apr 21, 2014, 2:14 pm
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Not aware of seat allocation on the twotter. It has always been turn up and find a seat.
On the SAABs yes there is seat allocation.
At least you can buy a hot drink on the SAABs -hot drinks often not supplied when they operated as a BA franchisee.
On the SAABs yes there is seat allocation.
At least you can buy a hot drink on the SAABs -hot drinks often not supplied when they operated as a BA franchisee.
Apr 21, 2014, 2:27 pm
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Even during the days when Loganair was a fully fledged BA franchisee, boarding passes were issued in a similar way as this...
Apr 21, 2014, 2:44 pm
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I remember the very first time I caught the twotter to Barra, I was through checked from Gatwick, with a seat assignment, didn't rush at the gate, and crew smiled when she saw my BP and said ah.... Just sit where ever.... Then she got in to the right hand pilots seat....
Happy days.
Happy days.
Apr 21, 2014, 3:09 pm
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I find it really annoying that you have to start your flight in London or beyond to book the code share. Start your journey at any Scottish airport and it's no code share, no lounge, no tier points, no avois. Thanks for that BA.
Apr 21, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Ah Loganair....operators of the flying shed.
I remember turning up at PIK one holiday weekend to fly with them to the IOM only to find they'd oversold the flight by 75%. "Och don't worry we've arranged for the aircraft to return and pick the rest of you up.....it'll be back by the time you've had a wee cup of tea". That's all right then the gathered throng said.
No compensation culture back in those days.
I remember turning up at PIK one holiday weekend to fly with them to the IOM only to find they'd oversold the flight by 75%. "Och don't worry we've arranged for the aircraft to return and pick the rest of you up.....it'll be back by the time you've had a wee cup of tea". That's all right then the gathered throng said.
No compensation culture back in those days.
Apr 21, 2014, 6:34 pm
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It's a shame you can't book the code share at a reasonable price.
As for lounge access a dummy booking GLA-BRR on flybe.com showed me a fare of £77 which included lounge access (which one do they use? I'm sure the flybe lounge closed) and fast track security.
Apr 21, 2014, 9:09 pm
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Surely a bit of software could sort this or am I being naive.
Sure it could probably be achieved, but it is hard to justify the dev, build and test, etc, plus ongoing support to keep it working to interface the systems, etc.
What do the Locals make of this arrangement?
Apr 22, 2014, 12:59 am
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Ah Loganair....operators of the flying shed.
I remember turning up at PIK one holiday weekend to fly with them to the IOM only to find they'd oversold the flight by 75%. "Och don't worry we've arranged for the aircraft to return and pick the rest of you up.....it'll be back by the time you've had a wee cup of tea". That's all right then the gathered throng said.
No compensation culture back in those days.
I remember turning up at PIK one holiday weekend to fly with them to the IOM only to find they'd oversold the flight by 75%. "Och don't worry we've arranged for the aircraft to return and pick the rest of you up.....it'll be back by the time you've had a wee cup of tea". That's all right then the gathered throng said.
No compensation culture back in those days.
My limited experience of Loganair flights even under BA codes was pretty painful for seat assignments and then even SS couldn't get them changed at LHR.
Apr 22, 2014, 4:52 am
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Booked through FlyBe (since I start in Scotland) and they do have seat selection for the twin otter, with the most adorable little seat map ever:
although whether this will have any correspondence to reality I won't be able to confirm until next month.
although whether this will have any correspondence to reality I won't be able to confirm until next month.
Apr 22, 2014, 11:13 am
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Great seat plan of otter!
Yes it's very odd the 2 companies don't allow access to each other's seat plans.
On the way up I was auto allocated the dreaded row 3 on the Saab without windows! Via BA which stated these had been allocated by the carrier and unable to change. The check in guys at Kirkwall had absolutely no control on the seat numbers BA generated and said passengers frequently got seated apart for their layer BA segment. Luckily I could check in for the BA segment in advance but not the flybe for the return journey
Yes it's very odd the 2 companies don't allow access to each other's seat plans.
On the way up I was auto allocated the dreaded row 3 on the Saab without windows! Via BA which stated these had been allocated by the carrier and unable to change. The check in guys at Kirkwall had absolutely no control on the seat numbers BA generated and said passengers frequently got seated apart for their layer BA segment. Luckily I could check in for the BA segment in advance but not the flybe for the return journey
Apr 24, 2014, 5:27 pm
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Apr 28, 2014, 12:22 pm
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