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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 3:52 am
          #811  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: Heathrow
        Programs: BAEC Gold
        Posts: 138
        Originally Posted by run44
        Hello, I wonder could some kind soul please check the following for me? In WT+ on the outbound and WT on the return so wondering how things are looking.

        LHR-SYD April 10th BA15

        Thanks in advance!
        BA 15 LHR 21:35 SYD 05:05 +2

        F9 A8 J9 C9 D8 R8 I4 W9 E3 T2 Y9 B5 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        SYD-LHR April 25th BA16

        F0 A0 J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        Cheers

        Captainc747
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 4:11 am
          #812  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2012
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        Posts: 222
        Originally Posted by captainc747
        BA 15 LHR 21:35 SYD 05:05 +2

        F9 A8 J9 C9 D8 R8 I4 W9 E3 T2 Y9 B5 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        SYD-LHR April 25th BA16

        F0 A0 J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        Cheers

        Captainc747
        Thank you - much appreciated.
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 4:16 am
          #813  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2006
        Location: London
        Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
        Posts: 2,999
        Originally Posted by run44
        Hello, I wonder could some kind soul please check the following for me? In WT+ on the outbound and WT on the return so wondering how things are looking.

        LHR-SYD April 10th BA15
        SYD-LHR April 25th BA16

        Thanks in advance!
        LHR1SYD 10/2135*0505 BA 15 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I7 W9 E3 TC
        Y9 B9 H6 K1 M0 LC VC SC NC QC
        OC G0

        SAT 25APR15 SYDNEY /LONDON AREA
        1 SYD1LHR 1530#0530 BA 16 F0 A0 J8 C1 DC RC IC W8 EC TC Y9
        B9 H9 K9 M5 L2 VC S2 NC QC OC G0


        Used a pretty magenta colour to highlight your classes

        Edit - captainc747 beat me to it - but with different results - i'm using UK POS - captainc747 - you as well?
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 4:32 am
          #814  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2012
        Location: Dublin
        Programs: BA Silver
        Posts: 222
        Originally Posted by Sam Bee
        LHR1SYD 10/2135*0505 BA 15 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I7 W9 E3 TC
        Y9 B9 H6 K1 M0 LC VC SC NC QC
        OC G0

        SAT 25APR15 SYDNEY /LONDON AREA
        1 SYD1LHR 1530#0530 BA 16 F0 A0 J8 C1 DC RC IC W8 EC TC Y9
        B9 H9 K9 M5 L2 VC S2 NC QC OC G0


        Used a pretty magenta colour to highlight your classes

        Edit - captainc747 beat me to it - but with different results - i'm using UK POS - captainc747 - you as well?
        Thank you kindly! Different results makes things interesting...?!
        run44 is offline  
        Old Mar 27, 2015, 7:38 am
          #815  
        formerly rxfleming
         
        Join Date: Jan 2009
        Location: AUH, DXB (and GLA)
        Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond, Marriott Plat Elite
        Posts: 2,456
        Can someone please check:

        BA 297 03rd April
        BA 294 18th April

        Thanks
        travelwithross is offline  
        Old Mar 27, 2015, 8:22 am
          #816  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: YVR/HKG/SIN
        Programs: ACSE*2MM,CX Diamond, BA Gold, OW Emerald,Fairmont Platinum, SPG Platnium Lifetime,
        Posts: 208
        Can someone recheck these loads for me again today?

        Can anyone tell me if BA #095 YUL-LHR March 29th and #199 LHR-BOM March 30th if either flight is oversold in WT or WT+...looking for possible OPUP for these flights.

        Thank you in advance.
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 9:41 am
          #817  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2006
        Location: London
        Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
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        Originally Posted by 2MMKid
        Can someone recheck these loads for me again today?

        Can anyone tell me if BA #095 YUL-LHR March 29th and #199 LHR-BOM March 30th if either flight is oversold in WT or WT+...looking for possible OPUP for these flights.

        Thank you in advance.
        SUN 29MAR15 MONTREAL /LONDON AREA
        1 YUL LHR 2335#1115 BA 94 J9 C4 D2 RC IC W9 E5 T4 Y9 B9 H9
        K9 M9 L9 V6 S3 NC QC O9 G9

        MON 30MAR15 LONDON AREA /MUMBAI
        2 LHR BOM 30/2135#1105 BA 199 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E2 T2 Y9 B9
        H9 K9 M9 L6 V3 S1 NC QC OC G9


        Sorry RXFleming - i'm not being rude, but I can do loads in a couple of seconds if you put the route. But as I don't memorise flight numbers it takes me longer as I have to google. I can't search by flight number, but by routing. You know the route so would appreciate people putting it down (three letter airport code preferable if Canada )
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        Old Mar 27, 2015, 9:50 am
          #818  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2014
        Location: London, UK
        Programs: BA Exec Club Gold
        Posts: 335
        Originally Posted by rxfleming
        Can someone please check:

        BA 297 03rd April
        LHR-ORD

        F9 A9 J9 C5 D3 R1 IC W9 E3 T1 Y9 B6 H5 K4 M4 L4 V1 S1 NC QC OC G0

        Originally Posted by rxfleming
        Can someone please check:

        BA 294 18th April

        Thanks
        ORD-LHR

        F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I4 W1 EC TC Y9 B4 H1 KC M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0


        As SamBee says - giving the routing means we don't have to google. I guess I'm just quiet today
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        Old Mar 29, 2015, 10:05 am
          #819  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: Heathrow
        Programs: BAEC Gold
        Posts: 138
        Originally Posted by Sam Bee
        LHR1SYD 10/2135*0505 BA 15 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I7 W9 E3 TC
        Y9 B9 H6 K1 M0 LC VC SC NC QC
        OC G0

        SAT 25APR15 SYDNEY /LONDON AREA
        1 SYD1LHR 1530#0530 BA 16 F0 A0 J8 C1 DC RC IC W8 EC TC Y9
        B9 H9 K9 M5 L2 VC S2 NC QC OC G0


        Used a pretty magenta colour to highlight your classes

        Edit - captainc747 beat me to it - but with different results - i'm using UK POS - captainc747 - you as well?
        KVS


        Captainc747
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        Old Mar 29, 2015, 7:14 pm
          #820  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2014
        Location: Austin, TX
        Programs: BA Bronze, Marriott Platinum
        Posts: 85
        AUS-LHR BA190 June 7th

        Disappointed to realize Flightstats no longer shows availability.

        Could someone please check BA 190 AUS-LHR, Sunday June 7th?

        Thanks in advance!
        Ausscot is offline  
        Old Mar 29, 2015, 8:16 pm
          #821  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2014
        Location: London
        Programs: BAEC Silver, HH Diamond, Avis President's Club
        Posts: 1,219
        A request please:

        BA283 LHR-LAX 09:40 this Saturday 4th April. I'm in CW and just interested in current load.

        Thanks
        Foltan is offline  
        Old Mar 30, 2015, 1:07 am
          #822  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2011
        Location: London
        Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
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        Here you go, Foltan

        BA 283
        LHR 04/04/15 9:40
        LAX 04/04/15 12:50 388
        F1 A1 J9 C5 D2 RC IC W9 E3 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L3 VC SC NC QC O9 G3

        UK POS
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        Old Mar 30, 2015, 4:23 am
          #823  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2014
        Location: London
        Programs: BAEC Silver, HH Diamond, Avis President's Club
        Posts: 1,219
        Much appreciated gustavmahler

        It looks like I shouldn't hold out much hope for last-minute UUA availability then or an OpUp for that matter.

        It currently looks like all the centre seats of both J decks are going to be unoccupied!
        Foltan is offline  
        Old Mar 30, 2015, 10:29 am
          #824  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2011
        Programs: BAEC Gold, Marriott Plat
        Posts: 686
        Hey folks, could someone check the loads on BA285 (LHR - SFO) on 6th Apr and then BA52 (SEA - LHR) on 12th Apr. Thanks in advance!
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        Old Mar 30, 2015, 10:34 am
          #825  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2010
        Location: Sheffield, UK
        Programs: BA - Silver,Hilton-Diamond, IHG - PlatAmb, GHA - Plat
        Posts: 766
        Hi Peck, info below

        BA 285 LHR - SFO
        F8 A7 J9 C9 D7 R5 IC W9 E1 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L5 V3 S3 NC QC O9 G9

        BA 52 SEA - LHR
        F7 A7 J9 C4 D2 RC IC W9 E2 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 S4 N1 Q1 O4 G0


        both UK POS
        Cheers,
        andy
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