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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Nov 10, 2016, 12:35 pm
          #3976  
         
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        Thanks Oaxaca
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        Old Nov 11, 2016, 12:47 am
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        Anyone willing to check how busy the following flight are?

        Hoping for a free row...

        Amsterdam (AMS) to Tokyo (NRT) — Thu, Nov 24
        Overnight flight
        KLM 861
        Dep: 2:30 pm
        Arr: 9:45 am
        11h 15m
        Boeing 777



        Fri, Nov 25

        Tokyo (NRT) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Tue, Nov 29
        KLM 862
        Dep: 11:25 am
        Arr: 3:30 pm
        12h 5m
        Boeing 777


        Many thanks in advance
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        Old Nov 11, 2016, 1:39 am
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        Originally Posted by mlzzz
        Anyone willing to check how busy the following flight are?

        Hoping for a free row...

        Amsterdam (AMS) to Tokyo (NRT) — Thu, Nov 24
        Overnight flight
        KLM 861
        Dep: 2:30 pm
        Arr: 9:45 am
        11h 15m
        Boeing 777



        Fri, Nov 25

        Tokyo (NRT) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Tue, Nov 29
        KLM 862
        Dep: 11:25 am
        Arr: 3:30 pm
        12h 5m
        Boeing 777


        Many thanks in advance
        There you go (UKPOS)

        J7 C7 D7 I7 Z5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 EL N9 R9 V9 GC X9

        J3 C3 D3 IC ZC Y9 B9 M9 U9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 EL N9 R9 V9 GC X9
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        Old Nov 11, 2016, 1:46 am
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        Thank you florens!

        Keeping my fingers crossed
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        Old Nov 11, 2016, 5:40 pm
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        19-Nov BA16 SYD-SIN
        19-Nov BA12 SIN-LHR
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 12:14 am
          #3981  
         
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        Good morning. I wondered if anyone would be kind enough to check the load of:

        BA766 LHR-OSL 12.40 13th Nov 16

        Thank you. Seatmap shows it quite empty still. But BA site says sold out.

        Many thanks!
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 3:23 am
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        Originally Posted by GBFlyer
        Good morning. I wondered if anyone would be kind enough to check the load of:

        BA766 LHR-OSL 12.40 13th Nov 16

        Thank you. Seatmap shows it quite empty still. But BA site says sold out.

        Many thanks!
        Yep looks sold out - only J3 show on expert flyer - rest all 0 .
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 3:35 am
          #3983  
         
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        Originally Posted by ianwall
        19-nov ba16 syd-sin
        19-nov ba12 sin-lhr
        ba16 f5 a5 j9 c1 d1 w3

        ba12 f1 j6 w9 e5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v7 s9 q5
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 3:06 pm
          #3984  
         
        Join Date: Nov 2016
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        15 Nov 16
        BA9
        LHR-BKK

        Appreciated.
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 3:20 pm
          #3985  
         
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        Hello

        Would anyone be able to check the load for following 2 flights?
        20 Nov AY70 HKG>HEL
        20 Nov AY665 HEL>CPH

        Thanks a lot!
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 4:16 pm
          #3986  
         
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        Originally Posted by patrickw
        hello

        would anyone be able to check the load for following 2 flights?
        20 nov ay70 hkg>hel
        20 nov ay665 hel>cph

        thanks a lot!
        uk pos

        ay70 j4 c0 d0 ic y7 b7 h0 kc mc pc tc lc vc sc nc qc oc zc rc g0 wc x0 e0

        ay665 j7 c7 d7 i7 y7 b7 h7 k7 m7 p7 t7 l7 v7 s7 n7 q7 o7 z7 r7 g7 w7 x7 e7
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 4:18 pm
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        Originally Posted by falangatang
        15 nov 16
        ba9
        lhr-bkk

        appreciated.
        uk pos

        j9 c2 dc rc ic w9 e7 t6 y6 b4 h0 k0 m0 lc vc sc nc qc oc g0
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        Old Nov 12, 2016, 5:20 pm
          #3988  
         
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        Originally Posted by Bat 21
        ba16 f5 a5 j9 c1 d1 w3

        ba12 f1 j6 w9 e5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v7 s9 q5
        Many thanks. I'm in W on ba16. As it looks busy in Y, I'm hoping for the magic beep!
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        Old Nov 13, 2016, 9:05 am
          #3989  
         
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        could someone check the BA15 on 20th Nov LHR to Sydney, please
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        Old Nov 13, 2016, 9:48 pm
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        Originally Posted by Bat 21
        Yep looks sold out - only J3 show on expert flyer - rest all 0 .
        Thank you so much for checking.
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