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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Aug 23, 2016, 4:33 pm
          #3541  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2016
        Location: Oxford (&Western Isles )
        Programs: BA GGL, CCR; RyanAir MillionMiler :( ;
        Posts: 756
        Could someone please check AA255 25 Nov JFK-LAX

        and AA297 25 Nov LAX-HNL ?

        Thanks everso
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        Old Aug 23, 2016, 4:40 pm
          #3542  
         
        Join Date: Sep 2010
        Location: Las Vegas
        Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Honors Diamond
        Posts: 3,228
        Originally Posted by wanderingjock
        Could someone please check AA255 25 Nov JFK-LAX

        and AA297 25 Nov LAX-HNL ?

        Thanks everso
        Here you go. Both flights are US POS:

        AA255: F7 A7 P0 Z0 J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L6 W0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

        AA297: F7 P7 A3 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 G7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
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        Old Aug 23, 2016, 5:19 pm
          #3543  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2016
        Posts: 18
        Please can someone check:

        BA 277 LHR-HYD on 1 November and
        BA 276 HYD-LHR on 10 November?

        Thank you!!

        Last edited by hostime; Aug 23, 2016 at 5:36 pm
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        Old Aug 23, 2016, 5:30 pm
          #3544  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2016
        Location: Oxford (&Western Isles )
        Programs: BA GGL, CCR; RyanAir MillionMiler :( ;
        Posts: 756
        Originally Posted by Geordie405
        Here you go. Both flights are US POS:

        AA255: F7 A7 P0 Z0 J7 D7 I0 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L6 W0 V0 G0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

        AA297: F7 P7 A3 Y7 B0 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 G7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
        Brilliant! Thanks Geordie405!! ^
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        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:18 am
          #3545  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2013
        Location: HKG
        Posts: 16
        Please can someone check:

        CX 659 HKG-SIN on 16 Sept
        CX 716 SIN-HKG on 18 Sept and
        CX 734 SIN-HKG on 18 Sept please?

        Many thanks!
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        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:27 am
          #3546  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2011
        Location: London
        Programs: BA Silver
        Posts: 297
        Could someone please check BA55 LHR-JNB on 28/8? Many thanks indeed.
        mentor of monty is offline  
        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:31 am
          #3547  
         
        Join Date: May 2005
        Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
        Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
        Posts: 7,691
        Originally Posted by mentor of monty
        Could someone please check BA55 LHR-JNB on 28/8? Many thanks indeed.
        Here you go (UK point of sale)

        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 08/28/16 12:00 AM for JNB
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 55         0      LHR                JNB                388       Unavailable     F7 A6 J9 C0 DC RC IC W9 E5 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 QC OC G9 
                             08/28/16 7:05 PM   08/29/16 7:05 AM             44% / 63m
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        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:33 am
          #3548  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2011
        Location: London
        Programs: BA Silver
        Posts: 297
        Most kind, thanks Andriyko
        mentor of monty is offline  
        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:43 am
          #3549  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2010
        Posts: 7,464
        Originally Posted by shadowline
        Some load-related help, if someone more knowledgeable can help me out...

        I can see a flight with loads of "J0 C0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N5 S9 G9"

        Same route, other flights that day are;

        J9 C4 D1 R9 I4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q5 S9 G9
        J9 C1 R9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N5 S9 G9
        J9 C9 D4 R9 I6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q5 S9 G9

        The J0 and C0 seem odd to me, especially considering loads on other flights that day.

        Could BA have gotten rid of the CE cabin for this one flight? Or could it actually have completely sold out while availability on others is so wide open?
        Possibly a large group booking that has taken all available CE space for that specific flight? Particularly likely if a corporate is sending a group connecting on to a longhaul, for example?
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        Old Aug 24, 2016, 2:53 pm
          #3550  
         
        Join Date: Nov 2014
        Location: Essex
        Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Diamond; IHG Spire Ambassador,
        Posts: 93
        Originally Posted by gustavmahler
        Here you go - with UK POS:

        BA289 14 September
        F5 A0 J4 C1 DC RC IC W9 E4 TC Y9 B9 H7 K5 M2 L2 VC SC NC QC OC G0

        BA288 16 September
        F5 A0 J4 C2 DC RC IC W3 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
        Many thanks gustavmahler
        FDX Traveller is offline  
        Old Aug 24, 2016, 3:31 pm
          #3551  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2015
        Posts: 48
        Could someone can check NH843 HND-SIN 26JAN, thanks a million.
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        Old Aug 24, 2016, 4:51 pm
          #3552  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2007
        Programs: BA Gold, UA Premier Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum, OnBusiness, Eurostar C.Blanche
        Posts: 106
        Originally Posted by Roy853
        Could someone can check NH843 HND-SIN 26JAN, thanks a million.
        Voilá

        NH 843
        Dep HND 26/01/17 0:05
        Arr SIN 26/01/17 6:35

        B789

        J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 R0 Y9 E9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 L6 K0 N0
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        Old Aug 25, 2016, 2:38 am
          #3553  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2015
        Programs: Gold Actually
        Posts: 271
        Hi

        Please can someone check
        BA2732 London Gatwick- Arrecife on Sun 4 Sept

        Thanks
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        Old Aug 25, 2016, 2:47 am
          #3554  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2011
        Location: London
        Programs: BA Silver, ZSL Silver
        Posts: 2,554
        Originally Posted by Castle25
        Hi

        Please can someone check
        BA2732 London Gatwick- Arrecife on Sun 4 Sept

        Thanks
        Here you go, with UK POS.

        J0 C0 DC RC IC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q8 O3 SC G3
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        Old Aug 25, 2016, 6:26 am
          #3555  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2016
        Posts: 18
        Originally Posted by hostime
        Please can someone check:

        BA 277 LHR-HYD on 1 November and
        BA 276 HYD-LHR on 10 November?

        Thank you!!
        please can someone check this for me, it causing me great apprehension that it will sell out by tomorrow when I buy my tickets. thank you
        hostime is offline  


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