BA3 LCY-JFK to lose US preclearance in Shannon [from 28 October 2012]
Aug 24, 2012, 4:23 am
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They certainly could not pick up pax in JFK for another US destination as cabotage, even consecutive cabotage, is streng verboten under the US-EU agreement (or indeed any other ASA with the US as they will not allow cabotage by foreign carriers). OTOH, I believe that a JFK-Canada flight would be OK under the US-EU agreement. I have not looked at what the story is regarding the Canada side of the story, though, since it would also have to be authorised under the relevant UK-Canada (or EU-Canada?, not sure if there is one of if it is still national bilaterals) agreement.
Aug 24, 2012, 4:39 am
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They certainly could not pick up pax in JFK for another US destination as cabotage, even consecutive cabotage, is streng verboten under the US-EU agreement (or indeed any other ASA with the US as they will not allow cabotage by foreign carriers). OTOH, I believe that a JFK-Canada flight would be OK under the US-EU agreement. I have not looked at what the story is regarding the Canada side of the story, though, since it would also have to be authorised under the relevant UK-Canada (or EU-Canada?, not sure if there is one of if it is still national bilaterals) agreement.
Aug 24, 2012, 4:44 am
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They should fly into HPN. It's just about as close to NYC as JFK and much more convenient for the hedgies in Connecticut and the other folks that live out there.
Sep 5, 2012, 5:08 pm
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BA3 loses Shannon pre-clearance from 28 October
I've just noticed on the BA website that pre-US immigration clearance at Shannon will be available only on BA1 from 28 October, so it seems moving the flight 3 hours earlier was the only way BA could get the US authorities to play ball.
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...n/public/en_gb
Doesnt this take the shine off this unique service??
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http://www.britishairways.com/travel...n/public/en_gb
Doesnt this take the shine off this unique service??
GD
When did this sudden appear?
More importantly, can I get BA to chance my flight to BA1 as I booked BA3 for the Shannon pre-clearance. It is not a retime but it is a different service to the one I booked. Why put up with the longer flight time and no lounge at LCY when I still have to queue at JFK immigration.
Sorry to set up a new thread but I think the BA3 issue deserves a separate thread as it is a different point
Last edited by KenJohn; Sep 5, 2012 at 5:14 pm
Sep 5, 2012, 5:17 pm
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When did this sudden appear?
More importantly, can I get BA to chance my flight to BA1 as I booked BA3 for the Shannon pre-clearance. It is not a retime but it is a different service to the one I booked. Why put up with the longer flight time and no lounge at LCY when I still have to queue at JFK immigration.
Sorry to set up a new thread but I think the BA3 issue deserves a separate thread as it is a different point
More importantly, can I get BA to chance my flight to BA1 as I booked BA3 for the Shannon pre-clearance. It is not a retime but it is a different service to the one I booked. Why put up with the longer flight time and no lounge at LCY when I still have to queue at JFK immigration.
Sorry to set up a new thread but I think the BA3 issue deserves a separate thread as it is a different point
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...e-shannon.html
Sep 5, 2012, 5:54 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 6:20 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 7:04 pm
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Actually all BA needs to do is provide a special services escort through immigration. Only 32 pax max and many times far fewer. Bags on the conveyor belt and out of the terminal no more than 15 minutes after disembarkation at T7 would be easy.
Sep 5, 2012, 8:29 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 9:49 pm
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Breaking news
Here's the new schedule, effective 28OCT12:
Note: the second arrival time is effective after the end of US DST on 04NOV12.
BA 1 will continue to pre-clear customs in Shannon during the re-fueling stop.
BA 3 will no longer pre-clear customs in Shannon and will arrive in New York as an international flight.
As per this thread, this is due to to U.S. CBP reducing the opening times of their pre-clearance facility at Shannon Airport.
The new schedule is already loaded on GDSs.
Code:
BA 1 LCYJFK 0950 1520/1420 318 M 1 X567 BA 1 LCYJFK 1250 1815/1715 318 M 1 5 BA 3 LCYJFK 1600 2130/2030 318 M 1 X6
BA 1 will continue to pre-clear customs in Shannon during the re-fueling stop.
BA 3 will no longer pre-clear customs in Shannon and will arrive in New York as an international flight.
As per this thread, this is due to to U.S. CBP reducing the opening times of their pre-clearance facility at Shannon Airport.
The new schedule is already loaded on GDSs.
Sep 5, 2012, 10:46 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 11:35 pm
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BA 3 will no longer pre-clear customs in Shannon and will arrive in New York as an international flight.
As per this thread, this is due to to U.S. CBP reducing the opening times of their pre-clearance facility at Shannon Airport.
The new schedule is already loaded on GDSs.
As per this thread, this is due to to U.S. CBP reducing the opening times of their pre-clearance facility at Shannon Airport.
The new schedule is already loaded on GDSs.
Sep 5, 2012, 11:35 pm
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