More night flights in LHR equals Steeper trajectory
Apr 11, 2012, 7:40 am
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How about a sliding scale of, as you say, 3 x market value compensation for those who were there when LHR was made of grass all the way along to the price of a pair of ear-plugs for those who moved in since the airport reached its current capacity?
*Absolute guess of course, but I suspect not inaccurate.
Apr 11, 2012, 7:54 am
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The basic footprint of LHR is as constructed in the late 40s. Before then, it was basically a 'nothing'.
And the main runways were always 27L/R, so no change there either.
So for the last 50+ years the presence of LHR, within 'the wire', is largely hn changed. It's just busier now.
Would I buy a house on final approach for an international airport? You jest!
And the main runways were always 27L/R, so no change there either.
So for the last 50+ years the presence of LHR, within 'the wire', is largely hn changed. It's just busier now.
Would I buy a house on final approach for an international airport? You jest!
Apr 11, 2012, 9:09 am
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I live 11.5 miles from the threshold of an International Airport (SFO) and whenever SFO lands across the bay (often in the winter/rainy time) I hear all those heavy's go over our house at all time of the day and night. And my house was here before the airport existed (1886 while SFO was opened in 1927).
And yes, I complain sometimes about the noise, esp at 1-2am in the morning.
And yes, I complain sometimes about the noise, esp at 1-2am in the morning.
Apr 11, 2012, 9:24 am
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I live 11.5 miles from the threshold of an International Airport (SFO) and whenever SFO lands across the bay (often in the winter/rainy time) I hear all those heavy's go over our house at all time of the day and night. And my house was here before the airport existed (1886 while SFO was opened in 1927).
And yes, I complain sometimes about the noise, esp at 1-2am in the morning.
And yes, I complain sometimes about the noise, esp at 1-2am in the morning.
Apr 11, 2012, 9:33 am
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Purely by co-incidence i'd been forwarded this link which fits in right here.
http://www.retronaut.co/2010/02/heathrow-airport-1935/
And to be fair, the houses at Heathrow looked so serene then, I would happily have purchased one of those lovely cottages. I mean, these flying machines, just a folly, no future in them right?
http://www.retronaut.co/2010/02/heathrow-airport-1935/
“As rural as anywhere in England. There is a calmness and serenity about it that is soothing in a mad rushing world”. This is how the tiny hamlet of Heathrow, at the edge of a heath and bordered by fields, was described by Gordon Maxwell in “Highwayman’s Heath” published in 1935.
Apr 11, 2012, 9:59 am
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Well, according to Google Earth [which now has historic data in layers] … it looks like most housing pre-existed LHR. Apart from Stanwell and Feltham, which just grew and grew ...
LHR, Dec 1945 …
And in 2010 …
LHR, Dec 1945 …
And in 2010 …
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Apr 11, 2012, 10:25 am
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Ryainair boss complains that people who live near airports should learn to live with the noise. If you buy a house then what do they expect.
I cant see BAA making this happen, I am sorry to report. The reason for this is T8191 comments about LHR. The shops would need to be 24/7. Who would really want to buy goods when you travel through LHR at silly o'clock. Also food would be hit. We know where BAA make their money..
I cant see BAA making this happen, I am sorry to report. The reason for this is T8191 comments about LHR. The shops would need to be 24/7. Who would really want to buy goods when you travel through LHR at silly o'clock. Also food would be hit. We know where BAA make their money..
Apr 11, 2012, 10:46 am
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Ryainair boss complains that people who live near airports should learn to live with the noise. If you buy a house then what do they expect.
I cant see BAA making this happen, I am sorry to report. The reason for this is T8191 comments about LHR. The shops would need to be 24/7. Who would really want to buy goods when you travel through LHR at silly o'clock. Also food would be hit. We know where BAA make their money..
I cant see BAA making this happen, I am sorry to report. The reason for this is T8191 comments about LHR. The shops would need to be 24/7. Who would really want to buy goods when you travel through LHR at silly o'clock. Also food would be hit. We know where BAA make their money..
1. It would surely result in a net increase of pax going through the airport - and at a different time to usual so wouldn't hit the existing trade during current core hours. And those pax who tend to spend money on goods (meaning non-food) will surely do that anyway regardless of time. Tax free is tax free to many even though us FF's know it isn't really the bargain they make it out to be
2. And folks will still drink tea, coffee, eat snacks etc at any hour whilst waiting for a flight
Apr 11, 2012, 10:53 am
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Only if the Shopping Mall can afford to pay all those staff in the hope that some Midnight Traveller has an urgent need for a Tumi carry-on or a Lauren Polo at 0230. Does that really shout economic sense?
OK, the Coffee and Burger people can manage - they pay minimum wages anyway.
OK, the Coffee and Burger people can manage - they pay minimum wages anyway.
Apr 11, 2012, 10:57 am
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A lot of this type of shopping is more to do with "want" as opposed to "need" anyways.
Apr 11, 2012, 10:57 am
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Only if the Shopping Mall can afford to pay all those staff in the hope that some Midnight Traveller has an urgent need for a Tumi carry-on or a Lauren Polo at 0230. Does that really shout economic sense?
OK, the Coffee and Burger people can manage - they pay minimum wages anyway.
OK, the Coffee and Burger people can manage - they pay minimum wages anyway.
Apr 11, 2012, 11:12 am
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Cheap staff = simples.
UK staff = can't afford to do it.
Which, of course, might explain some of the UK's economic problems, but I would be grateful if you would just take that as a comparative observation and not divert a interesting thread about night ops at LHR
UK staff = can't afford to do it.
Which, of course, might explain some of the UK's economic problems, but I would be grateful if you would just take that as a comparative observation and not divert a interesting thread about night ops at LHR
Apr 11, 2012, 11:18 am
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The 1960 date is that's when the "jet age" really began, or so I'm led to believe. If you've bought a house near an airport that currently takes schedules flights at the level LHR did in 1960, you've only got yourself to blame.
Depends. I bought some perfume at DXB at stupid-am on the way back home from ISB, one does need to provide a peace offering for the other half having been gone for 2 weeks.
Apr 11, 2012, 11:21 am
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SIN, BKK and DEL are definitely 24 hour airports though. With a lot of shops that stay open.
Apr 11, 2012, 11:22 am
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