Gold Upgrade for 2
Mar 22, 2012, 2:02 pm
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Gold Upgrade for 2
I'm 45 TPs short of 2500 which means when I go to Delhi this Tuesday I'll qualify for a "Gold upgrade for 2" voucher.
Does anyone know if I can use this voucher:
1. On a booking made by a Travel Agent?
2. On a booking made with Avios?
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
4. Can I give it to someone else?
I'm sure it will come with clear Terms and Conditions but I thought I'd ask you all as you're all so knowledgable about these things!
Thanks!
Does anyone know if I can use this voucher:
1. On a booking made by a Travel Agent?
2. On a booking made with Avios?
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
4. Can I give it to someone else?
I'm sure it will come with clear Terms and Conditions but I thought I'd ask you all as you're all so knowledgable about these things!
Thanks!
Mar 22, 2012, 2:10 pm
#2
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1. On a booking made by a Travel Agent?
I believe so, yes
2. On a booking made with Avios?
Yes, full redemptions only though. Not when you have already MFU'd
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
The GUF2 is for a return ticket. You both get upgraded for the entire ticket. Outbound & Inbound. Needs to be on one PNR.
4. Can I give it to someone else?
No idea. If you can, PM me.
I believe so, yes
2. On a booking made with Avios?
Yes, full redemptions only though. Not when you have already MFU'd
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
The GUF2 is for a return ticket. You both get upgraded for the entire ticket. Outbound & Inbound. Needs to be on one PNR.
4. Can I give it to someone else?
No idea. If you can, PM me.
Mar 22, 2012, 2:16 pm
#3
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: BA Gold (GGL + CCR), Star* G, SPG Plat, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 101
I'm 45 TPs short of 2500 which means when I go to Delhi this Tuesday I'll qualify for a "Gold upgrade for 2" voucher.
Does anyone know if I can use this voucher:
1. On a booking made by a Travel Agent?
2. On a booking made with Avios?
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
4. Can I give it to someone else?
I'm sure it will come with clear Terms and Conditions but I thought I'd ask you all as you're all so knowledgable about these things!
Thanks!
Does anyone know if I can use this voucher:
1. On a booking made by a Travel Agent?
2. On a booking made with Avios?
3. Could I split it and upgrade one person out and return rather than 2 people for one leg?
4. Can I give it to someone else?
I'm sure it will come with clear Terms and Conditions but I thought I'd ask you all as you're all so knowledgable about these things!
Thanks!
Mar 22, 2012, 2:29 pm
#4
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Mar 22, 2012, 2:33 pm
#5
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Rules can be found here:
http://www.britishairways.com/main/e.../?sl=guft#guft
http://www.britishairways.com/main/e.../?sl=guft#guft
1. The Gold Upgrade for Two is a single cabin class upgrade available on a single or return booking of up to 2 people made on the same reservation. For example: :
•Euro Traveller to Club Europe
•World Traveller to World Traveller Plus (where fitted on the aircraft)
•World Traveller to Club World (where World Traveller Plus is not fitted on the aircraft)
•World Traveller Plus to Club World
•Club World to First (where fitted on the aircraft)
2. The Gold Upgrade for Two must be booked within 12 months from the date of issue.
3. The Gold Upgrade for Two can be used in conjunction with any published fare sold directly by British Airways, including Avios Points redemption bookings. However, it excludes group bookings and those sold as part of a packaged holiday. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be used in conjunction with any industry or agency discounted fares.
4. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be used in conjunction with any bookings that have already been subject to an upgrade (Avios Points for Upgrade or Gold Upgrade for Two) or any other promotions/offers.
5. Rules of the ticket are governed by the original fare paid. In the case of redemption tickets Standard Redemption Rules apply.
6. The Gold Upgrade for Two is available for British Airways and franchise operated flights only. Partner and codeshare flights excluded.
7. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be applied to a booking containing any other carriers than British Airways.
8. To upgrade a new Avios Points booking please go to ba.com or contact your Service Centre, or to upgrade an existing Avios Points booking please contact your Service Centre. To upgrade a new paid booking please go to ba.com, or, in UK and North America contact your Service Centre. If outside UK and North America please contact your Sales Office. To upgrade an existing paid booking, please contact your Service Centre. You must advise at time of booking that you wish to use your Gold Upgrade for Two. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be redeemed at the airport.
9. When a Member books a Gold Upgrade for Two direct with British Airways the Member must pay for the ticket, but is permitted to give the ticket and upgrade to someone else.
10. The Member and/ or those travelling using the Gold Upgrade for Two will be personally responsible for any tax payable by them as a result of this offer.
11. The Gold Upgrade for Two is not an entitlement to travel and is subject to reward capacity restrictions.
12. Cancellations: If you cancel your upgraded booking the rules of the original ticket apply. If a cancellation is made more than 24 hours before departure your Gold Upgrade for Two will be reinstated, provided the Gold Upgrade for Two is within its 12 month validity period. If a cancellation occurs within 24 hours of departure, the Gold Upgrade for Two will be invalid for further use.
13. If using your Gold Upgrade for Two on an existing booking and your ticket has already been issued, you will need to send in your tickets 21 days in advance of travel, for your tickets to be re–issued. If you hold an e–ticket this will take 24 hours.
14. Infants: If an upgraded booking contains an infant travelling on an infant fare, the infant will be automatically upgraded with the adults. Child fares will be subject to the same rules as adults.
15. Household Accounts: Any Household Account Member who earns the Gold Upgrade for Two must redeem it personally. The Gold Upgrade for Two is not part of the Household Account pool and cannot be redeemed by another Member of the Household Account. Household Account Members who earn the Gold Upgrade for Two are subject to applicable Household Account redemption rules, whereby the Gold Upgrade for Two can only be used for Members within the Household Account. These upgrades cannot be allocated to Executive Club members under age 18. An upgrade earned by a member under 18 is allocated to the Head of that member’s Household Account.
16. Standard booking lead times apply for your area, Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
*Standard booking lead times apply. Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
•Euro Traveller to Club Europe
•World Traveller to World Traveller Plus (where fitted on the aircraft)
•World Traveller to Club World (where World Traveller Plus is not fitted on the aircraft)
•World Traveller Plus to Club World
•Club World to First (where fitted on the aircraft)
2. The Gold Upgrade for Two must be booked within 12 months from the date of issue.
3. The Gold Upgrade for Two can be used in conjunction with any published fare sold directly by British Airways, including Avios Points redemption bookings. However, it excludes group bookings and those sold as part of a packaged holiday. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be used in conjunction with any industry or agency discounted fares.
4. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be used in conjunction with any bookings that have already been subject to an upgrade (Avios Points for Upgrade or Gold Upgrade for Two) or any other promotions/offers.
5. Rules of the ticket are governed by the original fare paid. In the case of redemption tickets Standard Redemption Rules apply.
6. The Gold Upgrade for Two is available for British Airways and franchise operated flights only. Partner and codeshare flights excluded.
7. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be applied to a booking containing any other carriers than British Airways.
8. To upgrade a new Avios Points booking please go to ba.com or contact your Service Centre, or to upgrade an existing Avios Points booking please contact your Service Centre. To upgrade a new paid booking please go to ba.com, or, in UK and North America contact your Service Centre. If outside UK and North America please contact your Sales Office. To upgrade an existing paid booking, please contact your Service Centre. You must advise at time of booking that you wish to use your Gold Upgrade for Two. The Gold Upgrade for Two cannot be redeemed at the airport.
9. When a Member books a Gold Upgrade for Two direct with British Airways the Member must pay for the ticket, but is permitted to give the ticket and upgrade to someone else.
10. The Member and/ or those travelling using the Gold Upgrade for Two will be personally responsible for any tax payable by them as a result of this offer.
11. The Gold Upgrade for Two is not an entitlement to travel and is subject to reward capacity restrictions.
12. Cancellations: If you cancel your upgraded booking the rules of the original ticket apply. If a cancellation is made more than 24 hours before departure your Gold Upgrade for Two will be reinstated, provided the Gold Upgrade for Two is within its 12 month validity period. If a cancellation occurs within 24 hours of departure, the Gold Upgrade for Two will be invalid for further use.
13. If using your Gold Upgrade for Two on an existing booking and your ticket has already been issued, you will need to send in your tickets 21 days in advance of travel, for your tickets to be re–issued. If you hold an e–ticket this will take 24 hours.
14. Infants: If an upgraded booking contains an infant travelling on an infant fare, the infant will be automatically upgraded with the adults. Child fares will be subject to the same rules as adults.
15. Household Accounts: Any Household Account Member who earns the Gold Upgrade for Two must redeem it personally. The Gold Upgrade for Two is not part of the Household Account pool and cannot be redeemed by another Member of the Household Account. Household Account Members who earn the Gold Upgrade for Two are subject to applicable Household Account redemption rules, whereby the Gold Upgrade for Two can only be used for Members within the Household Account. These upgrades cannot be allocated to Executive Club members under age 18. An upgrade earned by a member under 18 is allocated to the Head of that member’s Household Account.
16. Standard booking lead times apply for your area, Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
*Standard booking lead times apply. Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
Mar 27, 2012, 3:43 am
#6
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While we're on the subject, I've got a couple of questions of my own:
1- Can they be used in conjunction with the Amex Companion Voucher?
2- Does travel have to originate in the UK?
Mine expires in July and I haven't found a way to use it yet, potentially looking at CW to F on LHR-CAI which is poor value but better than let it go to waste! Most other attempts to use it on LHR-DXB or LHR-GRU CW to F have been frustrated...
1- Can they be used in conjunction with the Amex Companion Voucher?
2- Does travel have to originate in the UK?
Mine expires in July and I haven't found a way to use it yet, potentially looking at CW to F on LHR-CAI which is poor value but better than let it go to waste! Most other attempts to use it on LHR-DXB or LHR-GRU CW to F have been frustrated...
Mar 27, 2012, 3:53 am
#7
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Location: London, UK
Posts: 5,657
While we're on the subject, I've got a couple of questions of my own:
1- Can they be used in conjunction with the Amex Companion Voucher?
2- Does travel have to originate in the UK?
Mine expires in July and I haven't found a way to use it yet, potentially looking at CW to F on LHR-CAI which is poor value but better than let it go to waste! Most other attempts to use it on LHR-DXB or LHR-GRU CW to F have been frustrated...
1- Can they be used in conjunction with the Amex Companion Voucher?
2- Does travel have to originate in the UK?
Mine expires in July and I haven't found a way to use it yet, potentially looking at CW to F on LHR-CAI which is poor value but better than let it go to waste! Most other attempts to use it on LHR-DXB or LHR-GRU CW to F have been frustrated...
If you are using it with an Amex voucher, the T&C's of that voucher require travel to start/end in the UK, so therefore the answer to 2 is also "yes".
If you're looking to avoid APD, or at least minimise it, then look for an ex-JER.
Mar 27, 2012, 4:09 am
#8
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However, on #1, as per paragraph 4 of the T&Cs posted above, it says Gold Upgrades for 2 cannot be combined with "any other offers/promotions". Perhaps Amex vouchers count as an "offer", as I definitely haven't found a way of combining these two while booking online...
Mar 27, 2012, 4:12 am
#9
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 5,657
Thanks for the ex-JER suggestion.
However, on #1, as per paragraph 4 of the T&Cs posted above, it says Gold Upgrades for 2 cannot be combined with "any other offers/promotions". Perhaps Amex vouchers count as an "offer", as I definitely haven't found a way of combining these two while booking online...
However, on #1, as per paragraph 4 of the T&Cs posted above, it says Gold Upgrades for 2 cannot be combined with "any other offers/promotions". Perhaps Amex vouchers count as an "offer", as I definitely haven't found a way of combining these two while booking online...
Mar 27, 2012, 5:01 am
#10
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Depending on how many GUF2's you have you should think carefuly about value.
If you book a GUF2 with a redemption you effectively save the points difference between the class you pay for and the class you occupy. if you use it with BA you have the same effect as if you tried to MFU you save the points you would have paid for the MFU but the award inventory still has to be there.
However if you book via a travel agent and make a cheap J booking you can upgrade to F if "A" revenue fares are available, or book into T and upgrade to J if I is available for sale. This is a much more valuable use of GUF2 unless you have a very low points balance, since the revenue buckets are usually much more widely available than the award buckets.
If usability is a problem it is likely to be because of lack of inventory in the award bucket. This makes the use of GUF2s with award bookings much more valuable for GGL members than anyone else.
Since it is only marginally more expensive to book a flight with Amex rather than BA (£10 per ticket fee, versus £4.50 per ticket card fees with BA), there is little increased using a GUF2 with a TA sourced booking than a BA sourced booking but there is a big impact on the available inventory.
If you book a GUF2 with a redemption you effectively save the points difference between the class you pay for and the class you occupy. if you use it with BA you have the same effect as if you tried to MFU you save the points you would have paid for the MFU but the award inventory still has to be there.
However if you book via a travel agent and make a cheap J booking you can upgrade to F if "A" revenue fares are available, or book into T and upgrade to J if I is available for sale. This is a much more valuable use of GUF2 unless you have a very low points balance, since the revenue buckets are usually much more widely available than the award buckets.
If usability is a problem it is likely to be because of lack of inventory in the award bucket. This makes the use of GUF2s with award bookings much more valuable for GGL members than anyone else.
Since it is only marginally more expensive to book a flight with Amex rather than BA (£10 per ticket fee, versus £4.50 per ticket card fees with BA), there is little increased using a GUF2 with a TA sourced booking than a BA sourced booking but there is a big impact on the available inventory.
Mar 27, 2012, 7:10 am
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Mar 27, 2012, 7:31 am
#12
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Thanks for that! Looks like it can only be done over the phone. Just reinforces my belief than when in doubt I should always call BA...
Mar 27, 2012, 8:44 am
#13
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However if you book via a travel agent and make a cheap J booking you can upgrade to F if "A" revenue fares are available, or book into T and upgrade to J if I is available for sale. This is a much more valuable use of GUF2 unless you have a very low points balance, since the revenue buckets are usually much more widely available than the award buckets.
Mar 27, 2012, 8:49 am
#14
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May 20, 2012, 9:38 am
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Rules can be found here:
http://www.britishairways.com/main/e.../?sl=guft#guft
http://www.britishairways.com/main/e.../?sl=guft#guft
12. Cancellations: If you cancel your upgraded booking the rules of the original ticket apply. If a cancellation is made more than 24 hours before departure your Gold Upgrade for Two will be reinstated, provided the Gold Upgrade for Two is within its 12 month validity period.
Is it because the 12-month validity period is the time to book it, not the time to fly it? (So one could wait 10 months and then use it to upgrade a flight 5 monthes later, so it could happen that cancelling occur outside the 1-year window?)