Can I 'book and upgrade' an AA domestic with BA miles online?
Nov 8, 2011, 2:50 pm
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Yup, that's exactly what I use. You can use different functions on there for revenue inventories, award inventories and fare information. In the case of A inventory upgrades, it will be the same whether running a revenue or award inventory query.
Nov 9, 2011, 2:30 am
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ba.com says:
*Eligible booking classes are as follows:
British Airways: J, C, D, R, I, W, E, T, Y, B, H
American Airlines and Iberia: J, C, D, Y, B
British Airways: J, C, D, R, I, W, E, T, Y, B, H
American Airlines and Iberia: J, C, D, Y, B
Nov 9, 2011, 6:57 am
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There is often very little difference in price between an upgradable economy fare and a KUP.
On a recently booked itinerary the KUP (instant upgrade fare) was $20 more each way than the upgradable economy fare. On another flight on the same day the KUP was $50 less each way.
On a recently booked itinerary the KUP (instant upgrade fare) was $20 more each way than the upgradable economy fare. On another flight on the same day the KUP was $50 less each way.
Nov 9, 2011, 10:01 am
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3.Miles for Upgrade on BAAAIB Flights are permitted on eligible published fares only (Fare classes are: J, C, D, W, Y, B).
Nov 9, 2011, 2:59 pm
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And in the detailed conditions of use it says:
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...sl=upgradeaaib
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...sl=upgradeaaib
I should add that if you don't mind 2.5hrs in the car and can drive to RSW (Ft. Meyers), then the price of a KUP is cut in half.
Nov 9, 2011, 3:07 pm
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Intriguing. I'll check that out too, thanks.
Nov 9, 2011, 4:26 pm
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I had it in my mind using miles for upgrade on AA flights was prohibitively expensive. I've been proven wrong having booked an EDI-LHR-ORD-DTW T class fare this weekend before the sale closed. Routing through to DTW on BA code/AA metal worked out £40 more than terminating at ORD. The ORD-DTW flights booked into B class and thus are eligible for MFU. Slight fly in the ointment moment came upon realisation AA's service between ORD and DTW is now exclusively single class on American Eagle. Still, one to remember for the future.
Nov 9, 2011, 9:20 pm
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I had it in my mind using miles for upgrade on AA flights was prohibitively expensive. I've been proven wrong having booked an EDI-LHR-ORD-DTW T class fare this weekend before the sale closed. Routing through to DTW on BA code/AA metal worked out £40 more than terminating at ORD. The ORD-DTW flights booked into B class and thus are eligible for MFU. Slight fly in the ointment moment came upon realisation AA's service between ORD and DTW is now exclusively single class on American Eagle. Still, one to remember for the future.
Nov 10, 2011, 3:54 am
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Nov 10, 2011, 4:56 am
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I tried this for a booking MIA- LAS and was told you can only upgrade with miles for AA transatlantic, not AA internal. This was on the telephone to BAEC customer services.
Mick
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Nov 10, 2011, 11:53 am
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I wonder if they were misinterpreting #5 from the EC T&C:
"Miles for Upgrade can only be applied to bookings which are made in the member's Executive Club membership country."
http://www.britishairways.com/travel...sl=upgradeaaib
My read is that if you reside in the UK you must book in the UK, regardless of the O/D of the flight. Perhaps her interpretation is that the flight must originate/terminate in the member's home country?
Or perhaps the location from which you booked actually makes you ineligible based on your address on file w/BA (such as if you're a former "Euro Cheat" actually booking from the US/UK?).
Last edited by Upgraded!; Nov 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Nov 11, 2011, 12:43 am
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There is often very little difference in price between an upgradable economy fare and a KUP.
On a recently booked itinerary the KUP (instant upgrade fare) was $20 more each way than the upgradable economy fare. On another flight on the same day the KUP was $50 less each way.
On a recently booked itinerary the KUP (instant upgrade fare) was $20 more each way than the upgradable economy fare. On another flight on the same day the KUP was $50 less each way.
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Nov 11, 2011, 1:30 am
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Upgraded, I spoke to BAEC in the UK. It was part of a trip we are doing next year, BA said I could book with miles, 75,000 for 2 people in first, or cash but that there was no way of booking and upgrading an AA internal flight. I did what you have to do with BAEC and telephoned three times to speak to somebody different, and they all told me the same, which was amazing in itself!
In the end we booked an instant upgrade with AA on their website, they were cheaper than BA by about £20 each because of booking fee. It actually worked out cheaper than booking an economy fare that was upgradable by USD230 each, so was not a problem in the end for us.
Mick
In the end we booked an instant upgrade with AA on their website, they were cheaper than BA by about £20 each because of booking fee. It actually worked out cheaper than booking an economy fare that was upgradable by USD230 each, so was not a problem in the end for us.
Mick
Jan 1, 2012, 10:10 am
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Apologies for bumping this old thread but I have a closely related question for the cognoscenti that didn't seem to merit a thread of its own.
Having established (from this helpful thread) that MFU-ing an AA domestic using Avios was possible I have just been looking into doing just this. I have a MAN-LHR-JFK-SFO return booking in February. The booking was made at ba.com as a Premium Economy ticket. The JFK-SFO-JFK transcons are booked into B class.
I just used the Avios redemption tool to check and there is a business class redemption seat available on my JFK-SFO sector. MMB does not allow me modify this ticket and so I have just called BA who tell me that there is no MFU availability for this sector.
I was surprised that, despite there being an Avios redemption business class seat on this flight, I was unable to MFU to the same class. I understand that I cannot MFU a super-cheapo economy ticket but I'm booked into B class which I thought was OK. Similarly I thought that redemption availability was an accurate indicator of MFU availability but it doesn't appear to be so in this case. Any thoughts on why I cannot MFU this AA domestic? Thanks.
Having established (from this helpful thread) that MFU-ing an AA domestic using Avios was possible I have just been looking into doing just this. I have a MAN-LHR-JFK-SFO return booking in February. The booking was made at ba.com as a Premium Economy ticket. The JFK-SFO-JFK transcons are booked into B class.
I just used the Avios redemption tool to check and there is a business class redemption seat available on my JFK-SFO sector. MMB does not allow me modify this ticket and so I have just called BA who tell me that there is no MFU availability for this sector.
I was surprised that, despite there being an Avios redemption business class seat on this flight, I was unable to MFU to the same class. I understand that I cannot MFU a super-cheapo economy ticket but I'm booked into B class which I thought was OK. Similarly I thought that redemption availability was an accurate indicator of MFU availability but it doesn't appear to be so in this case. Any thoughts on why I cannot MFU this AA domestic? Thanks.
Jan 1, 2012, 10:25 am
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You know the rule, phone again and see what happens!