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Old Jun 16, 2011, 7:10 am
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T5 CCR + F Computer programs

Do the computers have 'Microsoft Word' and 'Paint' in F lounge or CCR?
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 7:22 am
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Word yes, Paint I think not.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 7:28 am
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Really? I think Paint (and other simple programs like WordPad etc) has been on every windows PC I've used in the last 5 years.

I'm sure its a standard program included in probably all MS Windows OS intalls.

I'd say there was a high probability that Paint will be on the computer (in the "Accessories" folder) unless someone has purposely uninstalled it for some reason....
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 7:30 am
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Paint is standard with Windows
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 8:19 am
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Paint AND Word

Anyone in a lounge now to confirm?
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Magic01273
Really? I think Paint (and other simple programs like WordPad etc) has been on every windows PC I've used in the last 5 years.
Indeed, actually been standard since Windows 3.0 in 1990 - well that's when I first saw it, I don't know if the earlier versions had anything useful installed.

Paint can be uninstalled but I cannot think of any reasonable explanation for doing this.

Edit: Used to be called Paintbrush if anyone can remember that far back
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by srbrenna
Paint is standard with Windows
Whereas Word is not.

Can a plain Windows installation actually read .docx files, for example?

I've got one at home, running on my Mac, using Parallels, for when I need to run Windows software, which is remarkbaly rarely actually. I could test it there. Oddly I have Word installed on the Mac OS (someone gave me it for free - they had a multi-licence copy and didn't need all the licences) but not the Windows OS which I rarely use.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by srbrenna
Paint is standard with Windows
Really? Never heard of it! I'd assumed it was some oddball painting software.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 9:23 am
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Really? Never heard of it! I'd assumed it was some oddball painting software.
'Start' --> 'All Programs' --> 'Accessories' --> 'Paint'.

Now go make a pretty picture and post it

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Old Jun 16, 2011, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by LeisureFirst
Can a plain Windows installation actually read .docx files, for example?
No, not as standard but you do get free Office Viewer applications which obviously don't allow editing.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_ZA
No, not as standard but you do get free Office Viewer applications which obviously don't allow editing.
These are made available by Microsoft for Windows, or they are third-party?

I ask because Microsoft are notoriously bad about making their latest document formats even readable without shelling out a lot for their own software - the formatting information is essentially secret, unlike say a pdf or postscript file. Last time I looked, which was probably about a year ago, there wasn't a decent way of reading a .docx file reliably without paying Micros**t a lot of money. In time people will figure out how to read .docx files at least fairly reliably so Microsoft will then change the format to something more opaque. This is what is called "innovation" in Redmond and "monopoly abuse" in the rest of the world. It's funny going to the gym there and seeing people wearing "Freedom to Innovate" T-shirts because courts somewhere are trying to clamp down on this sort of practice.

Where do I sign up to a "Linux in the Lounges" campaign?
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by LeisureFirst
These are made available by Microsoft for Windows, or they are third-party?
Replying to myself, if I may, it looks like these are available from MS, but only for Windows. So, like I said, one way or another you have to pay Microsoft a lot of money, either for the OS or for Word, just for the privilege of reading a document someone has written using their software. Bad, bad, bad.
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by LeisureFirst
These are made available by Microsoft for Windows, or they are third-party?
They are Microsoft products (one for .xlsx too) and free to download:

Word Viewer
Excel Viewer
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Old Jun 16, 2011, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by LeisureFirst
Replying to myself, if I may, it looks like these are available from MS, but only for Windows. So, like I said, one way or another you have to pay Microsoft a lot of money, either for the OS or for Word, just for the privilege of reading a document someone has written using their software. Bad, bad, bad.
Mac OSX Preview can display Office document formats. I'd be surprised if there's not a *nix viewer, though perhaps not native to the operating system.
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