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Old Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
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An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
  • All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
  • POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
  • POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
  • POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
  • POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
  • After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.

Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.

LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
  • ACE - £105
  • AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
  • AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
  • ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
  • ARN – £72
  • BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
  • BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
  • BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
  • BRU - £69
  • BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
  • BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
  • CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
  • CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
  • CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
  • DBV – £79
  • DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
  • DUS – £69
  • FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
  • FRA – £69
  • GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
  • GOT – £79
  • GVA - £79/£89
  • HAJ – £69
  • HAM – £69
  • HEL – £89
  • INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
  • IST – £89
  • JER – £69
  • KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
  • LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
  • LIN – £79
  • LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
  • LUX - £69
  • MAD - £79
  • MAH - £69
  • MUC - £79
  • MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
  • NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
  • ORY - £69
  • OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
  • OTP - £79/€89
  • PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
  • PRG – £79
  • PSA - £79
  • SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
  • SOF - £89
  • STR – £69
  • TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
  • TRN – £79
  • TXL – £69
  • VCE – £79
  • VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
  • VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
  • WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
  • ZAG – £79
  • ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)

LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • ATL - WTP £189
  • BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
  • IAD - WTP £157
  • JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
  • LAS - WTP £180
  • LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
  • MCO– WTP £180
  • MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
  • MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
  • ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
  • PHL – WTP £189
  • SAN – CW £599
  • SEA – WTP £199
  • SFO – WTP £170
  • YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
  • YYC - WTP £134
  • YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350


LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • EZE – WTP £199
  • GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
  • GIG - WT to CW £699


LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
  • BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
  • DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
  • HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
  • NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
  • ICN - CW £499
  • SIN - WTP SGD$320

LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399


LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • AUH – F £499
  • CAI - WTP £121
  • DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
  • EBB - WTP £142
  • JNB - WTP £209
  • NBO - WTP £189


Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
  • SYD-SIN – F £465
  • AMS-LGW - CE €79
  • BCN-LHR - CE £64
  • BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
  • CDG-LHR - CE €79
  • DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
  • BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
  • JNB-LHR WTP - £189
  • TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 3:36 am
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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking thread

If I upgrade at the airport using cash to F from CW what happens in regard to TPs?
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by brill101
If I upgrade at the airport using cash to F from CW what happens in regard to TPs?
Assuming you booked a cash ticket, they probably won't post automatically and you will have to call/email to get them.

Save your boarding pass!!

Of course if you are on a redemption you get nothing or on Avios upgraded ticket you get nothing extra above the cash element of the ticket you paid for.
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Old Jan 18, 2013, 4:18 am
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Not a POUG as such, but AUP for LHR -DXP WT-WT+ for £209.

Seems to have gone up quite a bit from last time I did it.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 5:05 am
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Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking thread

Ive got a question....

If I've checked online but want to pay for an upgrade can I still change it over the phone or the airport only now? It's from CW to F.

Many thanks!!
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 5:09 am
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Any recent experience of the POU cost from J to F for GRU and HKG, please?
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by PanGalactic
Of course if you are on a redemption you get nothing or on Avios upgraded ticket you get nothing extra above the cash element of the ticket you paid for.
Not necessarily true of course (in relation to avios upgraded tickets), as has been discussed on here before - but certainly don't expect to get the full points
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 11:55 am
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LGW/JER proactive upgrade

Off shortly (weather permitting) on a short jaunt to this lovely island: Mrs Kipper 40 points adrift from retaining silver. I've been hanging on for the offer, but zilch so far.

I did read that this may be because of the "sale" - can anyone advise me on

1) likelihood of POAG being offered
2) what it usually costs (per leg) - I've a feeling it's about £60.

Otherwise I'll have to stump up £140 or so......
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by kipperman
Off shortly (weather permitting) on a short jaunt to this lovely island: Mrs Kipper 40 points adrift from retaining silver. I've been hanging on for the offer, but zilch so far.

I did read that this may be because of the "sale" - can anyone advise me on

1) likelihood of POAG being offered
2) what it usually costs (per leg) - I've a feeling it's about £60.

Otherwise I'll have to stump up £140 or so......
You need I Class of course for the upgrade seat. I do LGW to AMS from time to time and always upgrade when available for 69 notes to CE.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 12:08 pm
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Got a trip to madrid in April. Booked in Y for£210 for me and the wife.

Been offered £79 each way per person upgrade to CE total upgrade cost £318.

I really cannot justify paying the above especially as wife has CX gold via Amex plat.

Booked exit rows in both directions and have lounge access.

Rather book another weekend trip elsewhere.
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 12:09 pm
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Showing as I9, so plenty of availability
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Old Jan 21, 2013, 6:32 pm
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LHR-FRA-LHR booked in Q class thru company travel agent todat. £173.85 inc tax.
Online upgrade to Club offer showed for £69 each way once etickets issued.
This was a calculated risk as I specifically chose flights with I class availability in the hope this opportunity would present itself. Gladly expensed the £138 extra onto my company credit card and the eticket was subsequently reissued. I now have a Club return ticket (all be it no changes/no refunds but then again neither was my Economy ticket... all for £312.00). Lowest Club fare without a Saturday night away is £668 so all in all a saving of £356.00. Tier points are the goal to this excercise in the vain attempt to hold onto my gold for another year.... 10 months to renewal but already planning ahead.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 5:23 am
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Has anyone had recent POUG experience on the LHR-HEL vv. route?
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Jordan D
Has anyone had recent POUG experience on the LHR-HEL vv. route?
This is not recent but I did LHR-HEL-LHR on 08/09 Nov 2012. Outward was on Finnair and it showed £400 odd for business class upgrade. But the return was with BA and POUG gave me £89 which I gladly took. Don't know if I paid too much but I was happy as it was close to 3 hour flight. Also the 80 TP are a welcome too.

Edit: just to clarify that I didn't opt to upgrade the outward leg. £400+ is too much. Just upgraded the return with £89.
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by blindy
But the return was with BA and POUG gave me £89 which I gladly took. Don't know if I paid too much
£89 is pretty standard for 80 TP sectors (ie. all Band 4 + HEL (Band 3)).
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Old Jan 22, 2013, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by TravellerFrequently
Any recent experience of the POU cost from J to F for GRU and HKG, please?
To HKG it's £399/HKD 5,000 if I remember right.
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