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Apr 15, 2021 | 2:06 am
  #16  
Quote: Just wondering - hypothetically of course - if you could save money in shops by just putting items in your pockets and then leaving without paying? Seems such an obvious money-saving tip, I wonder why more people dont do it.
Indeed! While the hypotheticals above would probably lead to nothing more than expulsion from BAEC if discovered, theres a clearly statable case for fraud by misrepresentation - a conviction for which would be pretty disastrous in many areas of life.
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Apr 15, 2021 | 2:27 am
  #17  
Quote: Just wondering - hypothetically of course - if you could save money in shops by just putting items in your pockets and then leaving without paying? Seems such an obvious money-saving tip, I wonder why more people dont do it.
Well, if you do that you won't get your Nectar points
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Apr 15, 2021 | 2:44 am
  #18  
People who try these these things almost always get caught at some point and then react very indignantly.
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Apr 15, 2021 | 3:03 am
  #19  
I think they're fair questions - nobody is advocating doing them and as has been pointed out it would likely result in having your account frozen for audit and/or termination of membership. However thinking out loud on such things doesn't mean you're about to go ahead and commit them, I just happen to find it interesting. In my previous job I think I could have committed significant fraud/theft with knowledge of internal processes and weak spots in my employers security, I certainly would never have done so though. I could also reel off a whole raft of examples when working for another employer where I later found out various people had chanced their arm with their own schemes for personal gain and were getting away with it.... until they got found out.
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Apr 16, 2021 | 5:50 am
  #20  
Quote: In my previous job I think I could have committed significant fraud/theft with knowledge of internal processes and weak spots in my employers security, I certainly would never have done so though..
Glad to hear that you would never commit fraud or theft from your employer. What intrigues me is if you noticed the loopholes did you raise your concerns or point out the gaps in their processes? Processes are never set in stone, there is always room for improvement and I believe it is up to every employee regardless of seniority to prevent fraud whenever they spot the possibility. Fraud prevention is not only the responsibility of the Finance team.

As for OP hoping to get his wife's TP and Avios credited to his BAEC account that's a non-starter. It's like buying a ticket you have no intention of actually flying and still hoping to receive the TP and Avios. Never going to happen.
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Apr 16, 2021 | 6:06 am
  #21  
Quote: It's like buying a ticket you have no intention of actually flying and still hoping to receive the TP and Avios. Never going to happen.
Except for the people who purchased F fares to SYD just before the strike dates were officially announced....

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Apr 16, 2021 | 6:18 am
  #22  
For the amount of miles you get on a Domestic is it really worth it
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Apr 16, 2021 | 6:54 am
  #23  
...this is a last and final call as this thread is now closing...

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Apr 16, 2021 | 12:05 pm
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Quote: Glad to hear that you would never commit fraud or theft from your employer. What intrigues me is if you noticed the loopholes did you raise your concerns or point out the gaps in their processes? Processes are never set in stone, there is always room for improvement and I believe it is up to every employee regardless of seniority to prevent fraud whenever they spot the possibility. Fraud prevention is not only the responsibility of the Finance team.

As for OP hoping to get his wife's TP and Avios credited to his BAEC account that's a non-starter. It's like buying a ticket you have no intention of actually flying and still hoping to receive the TP and Avios. Never going to happen.
I agree with you and I flagged instances on multiple occasions. However their ethos was all about cure and not prevention so diligence was certainly not on their priority list... and with that kind of attitude I had little sympathy for them. To give you an example my work email account is still active at that employer years after me having left and I still have full access to shared drives and privileged company information. I could use that information against them if I so desired but I choose not to.

I was amazed at some the tenacity behind some of the frauds and scams that went on by some chancers and what lengths some went to do what they did until it eventually got noticed. It's the how's and semantics that I always found interesting. You can be certain these things will always get picked up eventually.... it's just matter of when.
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