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denCSA Oct 27, 2010 11:53 am


Originally Posted by mattk (Post 15022742)
Not sorted is now the answer! As the flights are linked/married through to a final destination it's impossible for them to change the first leg. Don't understand it but looks like I'll have to live with it unless anyone else has any ideas.

You're out of luck. MSC (Married-Segment Control) is a very closely watched issue with LH (and QR), and they go ballistics when any outside agent tries to go around the MSC logic.

mattk Oct 27, 2010 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by denCSA (Post 15024420)
You're out of luck. MSC (Married-Segment Control) is a very closely watched issue with LH (and QR), and they go ballistics when any outside agent tries to go around the MSC logic.

Thanks for the knowledgable advice denCSA.

GoldCircle Oct 27, 2010 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by mattk (Post 15022407)
I have an example today that might be illustrative of this (or it just could be they have crappy systems).

Yes, it was a very good example. ;)

flysas Oct 27, 2010 3:57 pm

can someone please help with availability for the following routing

27 feb lhr - hkg prefer evening departure

11 march sgn - bkk prefer morning departure

14 march bkk - lhr late evening departure

all in economy for one passenger


other alternate would be a virgin economy ticket
27 feb lhr - hkg
14 mar hkg - lhr
many thanks in advance for your help

G_G Oct 28, 2010 9:10 am

NZ is available ^

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SUN  27 Feb 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
NZ        38      LHR  21:05    HKG  17:15 +1  772  0  FS/  CS-  YS+


G_G Oct 28, 2010 9:12 am

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

SGN  Ho Chi Minh City VN [VVTS]
BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
FRI  11 Mar 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TG        551    SGN  10:20    BKK  11:45    333  0  FS/  CS-  YS+
TG        557    SGN  20:55    BKK  22:20    333  0  FS/  CS-  YS-
LH        773    SGN  21:05    BKK  22:30    744  0  FS+  CS+  YS+


G_G Oct 28, 2010 9:15 am

So 00:15 on the 15th march is better

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MON  14 Mar 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TG        910    BKK  00:15    LHR  06:20    744  0  FS+  CS-  YS+
TG        916    BKK  13:30    LHR  19:35    744  0  FS+  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 5.8.0/Diamond - SNT: Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]
Code:

BKK  Bangkok Intl TH [VTBS]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
TUE  15 Mar 2011 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TG        910    BKK  00:15    LHR  06:20    744  0  FS+  CS-  YS+
TG        916    BKK  13:30    LHR  19:35    744  0  FS+  CS+  YS+


flysas Oct 28, 2010 10:12 am

thanks for ur help gg

Cheetah_SA Oct 29, 2010 1:00 am

This is a bit generic: I want to know the best way to check for LX availability. I did several searches (honest!) and am still not sure I understand it. Am I correct in understanding:

- M&M shows availability for their FF program only and is no indication of what is available to DC members.
- Ditto for EF.
- ANA shows availability when it applies to partners like DC and is the best source for this. This will usually be closer to the date of the flight. (I am looking for next April.)

I did see reference to the ICC finding availability when none was showing on ANA. Is this at all common?

TIA :)

alexb1212 Oct 29, 2010 2:53 am

bd 5033 vs
 
i can see i class award seats on ef bd5033 lhr-lax this is a vs flight
are you able to book this as miles+cash with bd

Tiger_lily Oct 29, 2010 3:04 am

No, you can't book a VS flight under a BD codeshare and get away with C&M.

You'll pay full VS partner miles for that, and have to book it as a return

jms_uk Oct 29, 2010 3:41 am

I presume booking BD codeshare flights on non-DC partners [like KM] is not possible at all? :)


Originally Posted by Tiger_lily (Post 15035352)
No, you can't book a VS flight under a BD codeshare and get away with C&M.

You'll pay full VS partner miles for that, and have to book it as a return


Tiger_lily Oct 29, 2010 3:52 am


Originally Posted by jms_uk (Post 15035415)
I presume booking BD codeshare flights on non-DC partners [like KM] is not possible at all? :)


Correct

KVS Oct 29, 2010 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 15035114)
This is a bit generic: I want to know the best way to check for LX availability. I did several searches (honest!) and am still not sure I understand it. Am I correct in understanding:

- M&M shows availability for their FF program only and is no indication of what is available to DC members.
- Ditto for EF.
- ANA shows availability when it applies to partners like DC and is the best source for this.

Your understanding is correct.

And, being a KVS Tool member, you can easily access both 'sets' of award/upgrade availability using the [Awards/M&M] & [Awards/StarAlliance] Methods respectively.

lopinc1 Oct 29, 2010 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by Cheetah_SA (Post 15035114)
- ANA shows availability when it applies to partners like DC and is the best source for this.

Yes, and if you want a nice front end to ANA which solves many of it's problems, FT members can luckily use Awardnexus.com for free.


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