compare *aliance FFP
 

I try to find a new *aliance FFP ( due to the fact, oneworld not cover my needs ).

My biggest problem with oneworld is award availability, which is basicly not given in business class to BKK/SIN and ultra rare to HKG as well. And as we fly more than 90 % betwen Europe and Thailand and onward, I need a FFP which has the best earn / spend ratio flying Europe Asia in business / first revenue as well as award. So I compared how many paid business class flights I have to make for a same free ticket.
( lets say the basic distance distance 100% = 6000 miles, 125% = 7500 miles , 150% = 9000 miles 200 % = 12.000 miles

LH M&M gold 225% rt. 27.000 miles
single award 135k 1 : 5
SEN partner award ( we usually could use ) 101k each 1 : 3,9

TK M&S gold 150 % rt 18.000 miles
normal award 140 k 1 : 7,5
saver award ( only on TK, not sure about availability ) 70k 1: 3,75 )

OZ 125% = 15.000 miles
award 15.000 rt. flights 115k 1 : 10

AC I see no bonus for flying paid C/F 100 % = 12.000 miles
105 k 1 : 9

US 125 % = 15.000 miles
BKK 90k in C 110k in F 1:6 and 1: 7
HKG 80k in C 100 in F 1: 5,3 and 1 : 6,4

so from ratio LH and may be TK looks the best.
but I don/t know much about aditional status bonus miles
also have to keep in mind that US sells massive milage through promos for aprox 1750 US$ per 100k, but with a possible merger with AA, US could be the next airline leaving *aliance.

Mostly 70% we fly on TG ( but them poor earn spend ratio, not makes it worth to join them FFP ).
The rest I would say goes to LH, LX and SK
If there is someone here, who knows something better, please post and I will update my original post. Also experience with status bonus would be nice.
I know US gives up to 100%, but only on flights on US and may be LH.
So it's defenetly up to each flying pattern and noone can say which FFP is the best for all ( exception of course was our loved DC ) :rolleyes:

Unless you're flying in "discounted" business class on or after 1 September, of course: 175% for a SEN or HON in Z and just 125% in P.

I really wouldn't go with TK
 

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I don't get how you reach 225% : you're flying 70% TG, so there is 200% for Business class on any fare bucket and no Executive bonus, or LH/LX 30% of the time and you'd get a 25% bonus but 100%-200% depending on fare. So if you're flying 70% TG, and all your flights in Z on LH/LX, you'd get an average of 23,100 miles per round trip. If you were flying all your flight in full fare business, your average would be 24,900.

The award/paid flight ratio would be 5.42 to 5.84, dropping to 4.37 to 4.06 if you can generally find companion awards to your destination.


Aeroplan is stingy, but not that stingy. The COS bonus is 25% for Business and 50% for first on Lufthansa and Thai (among many others). The true ratio is 7.0.

You didn't mention A3: is it a deliberate choice to avoid the programme of a very small airline that could go the way of the bmi?

Their earn/burn ratio would be 4.58, better than LH unless you're sure you can score companion awards more than 75% of the time.

Indeed. One should calculate as you did for their planned flights and redemption goals.

Miles and bonus is aegean's frequent flyer programme, so you are asking to spend A3 miles via TK, to which they have responded that they do not permit...

Yep, I just saw what I wrote - so apologies (post deleted before your reply)

But my point still stands that they don't seem to have a great grasp of English, which means that redemptions may be a bit tricky.

It is all greek to me!!!

indeed we mostly 2 or more, so mostly could use partner award ( if availability on LH/LX is given ).
I thought in M&M a paid flight on TG C,D,J,Z credits 200 % + 25 % for SEN, so totally 225% ( or Iam wrong ? ).
The first pax needs 135k + partner needs 67,5k = 202,5k for 2 pax

6000 * 2,25 = 13.500 * 2 = 27.000 ( in real it comes more to 30k )
So using SEN partner award it would be less than 4 paid flights for 1 free.

ANA also not that bad, earn factor 150 % and award flight until 14.000 flown miles cost 90k. Also here I not have any clue about status bonus.

TAP has good earning rates, but the free flights are simply to expensive.

Another question would be, that some FFP's not charge fuel YQ ! I think US does not. Together with the oportunity to buy miles, this also not that bad.

You get the SEN bonus (executive bonus) on LH-group flights and on US carriers : Adria, Air Canada, Air Dolomiti, Austrian, Brussels Airlines, LOT, Lufthansa, Luxair, Swiss, United, US Airways.

So no, you don't get 225% on TG, you get 200%. Also, you don't get HON points on TG flights.

Elite members get a 50-125% status bonus on ANA and United flights. You wouldn't benefit from it when flying LH/LX/TG.

And the very important Croatia airlines :D

And the bonus start as of FTL, not only as of SEN.
Adds up when getting from FTL to SEN

GBM

Eg. UA: http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...ticketing.aspx
Canceling your trip and re-crediting miles $150/$125/$100/0 depending on status.
Similar for AA (waived for EXPs)
Needless to say that even for BA if you cancel less than 15 days before deaprture you progressively lose part or all your miles
AX

Needless to say you need to add a reference.

My wife just cancelled BA flights far less than 15 days before departure and the confirmation promised that all miles would be refunded.

EDIT: They're there already. Same day credit, too. :)

Usually, when asking for reference, checking the T&C of the program will give information on what to expect. T&C on BA's website.

Apparently, the poster above mixed cancellation penalties for non-flight reward and flight reward.

OK, but I wondered whether the poster may have had additional info because what s/he posted looked wrong.Thanks for clearing this up.

Ok, I see. So only 200% on TG with M&M.
Do you know a progr. which gives status bonus on TG ?
Or any sugestion, which is the best progr. for people flying mostly in J/A TG, and little in Z/P LX/LH ?
Want to redeem on TG/LH/LX/SQ I or O between Europe ( Germany and Asia ( incl. Thailand )