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Originally Posted by m44
(Post 6855640)
WHEn I put this code in - it kicks back to the reservation starting page.
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Originally Posted by bob1008
(Post 6847320)
Ezmonee, can you tell us a bit more about the cases you mentioned?(i.e. codes used, exact issue that caused the Do Not Rent, etc.). I don't doubt your information, it's just that my first hand experience has been just the opposite. Also....in the worst case scenario that the LDW is declined, the credit card coverage or personal auto policy coverage can be implemented at any time. I don't see the issue or risk, in my opinion.
If anyone reading this has ever been declined LDW using one of the "open" codes, please educate us. Thanks. there are no "open" codes that include LDW. Any code that includes LDW is a Corporate code, linked to a corporation. In the above cases, damage was waived via the AWD code as you have experienced. At the end of the year, a list of accidents is provided to the company whom the AWD code is involved with. Frequent accidents by specific people, or more than the market average for accidents in particular cities can be cause for a higher cost in the rental in exchange for the same coverage. If the owning company can disavow specific people, stating "those people are not employees" then avis will investigate, demanding proof of employment to those companies. By keeping their rolls clean, it allows for the best possible rate on renegotiation. Less accidents mean less LDW charge built into their corp rate. Also if one person has 5 accidents nationwide, Avis may offer to exclude that person from renting with Avis under that AWD code, therefore keeping the company charges cheaper. In those cases, Avis did the math for the company, showing that by puttintg that person outside of the agreement, and having that person buy full LDW on his own, the company as a whole saves more money. Believe it or not, it happens. there are some guys that are just high risk drivers. Should those individuals not have any proof of employment, or eligibility to use those codes, the security dept will determine the degree of separation from the code. If a friend gave you the code and that friend works for the company, youll just have to repay the money. But if you are using, for example, a law firms AWD in new york, and you live and work in Arizona, The company it its discretion may place you on the do not rent list. The three individuals who were denied that I know of used the same AWD code, a code that allowed age and full LDW. Two of the individuals got into an accident at the same time during a snow storm, I believe they hit each other. The third totalled the car on vacation in Hawaii. the owning company was alerted to it because they have absolutely no business in the entire state of Hawaii, and the firm only travels on the east coast. The two cars in the accident were also involved with several other cars, and because of the multiple insurance information collected, the individuals put their real employers on the police reports and in reports to other insured individuals in the case. The LDW providers caught the discrepancy and requested proof of employment from the AWD company. Thats all she wrote. Once that cleared up, Avis asked the company to review accident reports and "names of those using the particular AWD code." Then they spotted the Hawaii rental. I do believe the AWD was publicized on a Frequent traveler board, but I did not see the particular AWD code on this board. In all cases, the renters personal insurance, including credit card, refused to pick up the charges of the accidents because "the rental was obtained via fradulent means" therefore violating the contract. I forgot the actual passage, but in the rental agreement, there is a passage that speaks to it. So, due to violation of contract, the insurance companes opted out of paying for the incidents. The guy in Hawaii did get his insurance to argue his case out during litigation, but he was responsible for alll charges. The insurance company handled the litigation costs. these are test cases that were shared to managers at managers training to explain how things worked. There are, however, open codes that are linked to Loss limit setups. For example, Some AAA codes for some states are linked to "max liability on damage to the car is 3,000". so if you total the car, Avis will send you a bill fr 3k. |
Originally Posted by Acrossenger
(Post 6845357)
Wow, back the bus up. Getting caught using an AWD you are not authorized for get you one way ticket to do not rent list? Besides, I was under the impression L093590 is a free for all code.
Plus, using an AWD code to defraud on price is one thing, they just make you pay the difference. Using an AWD code to defraud on age....I am in discussions with an FT'er who is in that hell right now. I have at least 10 Private messages back and forth discussing his situation and he got caught and is now on the DNR list. using an AWD code to defraud on thousands of dollars of damage.... Well....you see the result. Also, depending on the state, it could be considered illegal. Because LDW by nature is not insurance, its a loss damage waiver, insurance fraud cannot be applied. But depending on the state, it could come under some statutes. Lawyers chime in. If someone misrepresents themselves to obtain thousands of dollars in benefits....what charges can be levied? |
Originally Posted by ezmonee
(Post 6813611)
yes. And I have been the one to question them.
A153700-A153799 will always be questioned. ALWAYS. By rule, any AWD code that pops up as "corprate will need some sort of ID. Just two months ago, AARP and a few others, the computer prompts the employee to get proof of eligibility. Within a matter of a year every company corporate account (if the company requests it) will ask for ID or proof. That doesnt mean the agent will ask you for it. Can you avoid the interrogation by booking a car using your Preferred profile, or will they just hold the keys at the counter until you verify you can use the code??? |
What a result that I came across this post !!
I work for an investment bank in London and notice on our US travel intranet page that we have an arrangement with Avis - the link takes you into a co-branded section of the Avis website and provides 2 AWD codes: one for business travel and one for employees to use on leisure travel. So I thought I'd see what rate they come up with for my upcoming SFO rental, filled in the info, changed my country of residence to UK etc. What I found interesting is that the LDW and ALI sections on the quote page were "greyed out" (ie: accepted) which I assumed means that they are included in the rate. (NB: I know that when using budget.com and you select "UK" as country of residence that these items are included in base rates that are quoted in UK Sterling, but still optional if the base rate is quoted in USD). So am happily completing details thinking that I have saved USD20 (when compared to the rate I got on Budget.com) for the total rental. But this post about companies and AWD rates has me very nervous indeed !! I would most certainly not want to be in the situation where if (god forbid) we did have an accident that my employer could potentially get involved / caught up in the (likely) mess !! |
Originally Posted by ezmonee
(Post 6856754)
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AAA and Sam's Club code
Are these following codes still valid? I checked them on the AVIS site and it produced the discounts, but I know these codes were from 2004. Do you think it is still legit to use them?
AAA discount code B935221 Sam's Club code B973000 Thanks for your help on this matter. And BTW, I picked these codes since I am members of both clubs. |
Originally Posted by bostonbali
(Post 6877987)
What happens when you use one of these special codes and are a Preferred member (contract and keys ready to go, bus drops you off at the car)?
Can you avoid the interrogation by booking a car using your Preferred profile, or will they just hold the keys at the counter until you verify you can use the code??? |
Originally Posted by mrblueeyes
(Post 6959271)
ezmonee - is there anyway to see what type of benefits are associated with an AWD? I ask b/c my company has about 8 or 9 different AWDs associated with it and I was wondering why so many? Now if some of them included an LDW or something then I could understand. When I was at the DTW AVIS to rent a car a few weeks ago I asked them what the difference was. The girl looked my company's AWDs and couldn't tell me. She wasn't one of the most knowledgable AVIS employees but she was nice, so I didn't push the subject. Any light that you could shed on this would be appreciated.
Thanks!! I will caution that each code is probably exactly the same. Usually with the exception of one specific code (for example a555500 is for military, a555590 is for military liesure) all the benefits are the same. The only difference is the billing department for accounting. a555500 is for military, general. a555501 is also military...but assigned to "Army JAG". A555502 Abredeen proving grounds. those are examples...but I have no clue what each number is. when checking out what each code is, look at it this way. AWD's are a letter and 6 digit codes (soon to be 7). the letter and first 4 designate an account, the last two designate a billing dept within that account. |
Originally Posted by HKsupastar
(Post 6974888)
Are these following codes still valid? I checked them on the AVIS site and it produced the discounts, but I know these codes were from 2004. Do you think it is still legit to use them?
AAA discount code B935221 Sam's Club code B973000 Thanks for your help on this matter. And BTW, I picked these codes since I am members of both clubs. yes. A108300- Costco B999900- AAA |
Originally Posted by ezmonee
(Post 6979062)
There is a way, but its not easy. Not everyone knows. Its not a standard screen. its been a while, but /for p610-p618 (any avis employee will know what that means) somewhere in that range, on an Avis admin terminal, will get you the benefits for each individual code at THAT location. Only corporate sales can provide a list of each code.
I will caution that each code is probably exactly the same. Usually with the exception of one specific code (for example a555500 is for military, a555590 is for military liesure) all the benefits are the same. The only difference is the billing department for accounting. a555500 is for military, general. a555501 is also military...but assigned to "Army JAG". A555502 Abredeen proving grounds. those are examples...but I have no clue what each number is. when checking out what each code is, look at it this way. AWD's are a letter and 6 digit codes (soon to be 7). the letter and first 4 designate an account, the last two designate a billing dept within that account. Thanks again!!! |
Originally Posted by bostonbali
(Post 6877987)
What happens when you use one of these special codes and are a Preferred member (contract and keys ready to go, bus drops you off at the car)?
Can you avoid the interrogation by booking a car using your Preferred profile, or will they just hold the keys at the counter until you verify you can use the code??? However, at a non-preferred location they ask for your authorization. When I tell them it was a quick trip with no time to get the authorization they searched around for another code with a very similar pricing and give that to me. Flighthopper |
Originally Posted by flighthopper
(Post 7003494)
I have used these codes at several locations. As a Preferred you get off the bus and go to your car as usual, no questions asked (SAN, PHX, SEA). I have even gone into the office and requested a car change with no questions asked.
However, at a non-preferred location they ask for your authorization. When I tell them it was a quick trip with no time to get the authorization they searched around for another code with a very similar pricing and give that to me. Flighthopper |
Has anyone used code B999000, this seems like a great discount. Also does anyone a code that would work great in Orlando?
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Originally Posted by mjstef2
(Post 7009818)
Has anyone used code B999000, this seems like a great discount. Also does anyone a code that would work great in Orlando?
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