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citygirlmk Mar 22, 2010 7:26 am

Avis Discount Code k444404
 
I just used Avis Discount Code k444404 for a car rental in spain which gave me a ridiculously deep discount! What does this discount code represent and will I need to provide some sort of ID for it when I pick up the car? Anyone?

IAHtraveler Mar 22, 2010 12:07 pm

Again, Google has a bunch of results on this. As with all codes, if you don't know who it's intended for (and you're not part of that group) using it is fraud and can lead to issues when renting, both this time and all future rentals.

JLewisinSyr Mar 22, 2010 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by IAHtraveler (Post 13625375)
Again, Google has a bunch of results on this. As with all codes, if you don't know who it's intended for (and you're not part of that group) using it is fraud and can lead to issues when renting, both this time and all future rentals.

And even more so if you're ever in an accident when using a contract code you're not eligible for...talk about severe issues with insurance.

gleff Mar 22, 2010 8:52 pm

See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avis/...ems-using.html

srodr Mar 22, 2010 9:03 pm


Originally Posted by citygirlmk (Post 13623433)
I just used Avis Discount Code k444404 for a car rental in spain which gave me a ridiculously deep discount! What does this discount code represent and will I need to provide some sort of ID for it when I pick up the car? Anyone?

I've used it many times over the years and never had an issue, although some are reporting problems with it lately. If it is such a great price just go for it with a backup reservation at another company just in case.

JLewisinSyr Mar 23, 2010 10:18 am


Originally Posted by srodr (Post 13628759)
I've used it many times over the years and never had an issue, although some are reporting problems with it lately. If it is such a great price just go for it with a backup reservation at another company just in case.

Why use a code you are CLEARLY not eligible for and then circumvent the problem by overbooking!

spineangel Mar 27, 2010 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by JLewisinSyr (Post 13631565)
Why use a code you are CLEARLY not eligible for and then circumvent the problem by overbooking!

WHY???? So you can drive a nicer car for a lower cost..... I never overbook, never been a reason to.

JLewisinSyr Mar 28, 2010 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by spineangel (Post 13662488)
WHY???? So you can drive a nicer car for a lower cost..... I never overbook, never been a reason to.

It's called ETHICS, using a code you're not eligible for is stealing, simple as that.

USirritated Mar 28, 2010 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by JLewisinSyr (Post 13666031)
It's called ETHICS, using a code you're not eligible for is stealing, simple as that.

I disagree totally! If the OP made the code up to just try it on a goof and it worked, then she is stealing. However, if the code is published in various places around the Internet, then the code is publically available, just like many other publically available discount codes for Avis, Hertz, Hilton, Marriott, and many other travel companies.

If Avis did not wish for the code to be used, then all Avis needed to do was change the code, often, and make the changed code known only to the parties which Avis wishes to use that code.

Obviously, Avis has a computer system, and they can track the usage of their own discount codes, and if they cannot do that, then that is Avis's problem, not Avis's customer's problem, is it? If it was a problem in Avis's eyes, then Avis could darn well do something about it, yet they have chosen not to, so what's the beef?

JLewisinSyr Mar 29, 2010 5:05 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 13667522)
I disagree totally! If the OP made the code up to just try it on a goof and it worked, then she is stealing. However, if the code is published in various places around the Internet, then the code is publically available, just like many other publically available discount codes for Avis, Hertz, Hilton, Marriott, and many other travel companies.

If Avis did not wish for the code to be used, then all Avis needed to do was change the code, often, and make the changed code known only to the parties which Avis wishes to use that code.

Obviously, Avis has a computer system, and they can track the usage of their own discount codes, and if they cannot do that, then that is Avis's problem, not Avis's customer's problem, is it? If it was a problem in Avis's eyes, then Avis could darn well do something about it, yet they have chosen not to, so what's the beef?

Public codes are one thing, but just because a code is disseminated to the public doesn't make it public. It would be like a credit card number being typed into a web forum by an exgirlfriend. Sure the code is now public, but it doesn't mean it should be used by the general public.

DownUnderFlyer Mar 29, 2010 5:09 am

Just because you find a MS Office Professional product code in a Warez forum doesn't mean that you would be using a legal software product.

But depending on what the code is and how it is published it might be public. Or might not be. Only Avis can tell.

spineangel Mar 29, 2010 5:09 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 13667522)
I disagree totally! If the OP made the code up to just try it on a goof and it worked, then she is stealing. However, if the code is published in various places around the Internet, then the code is publically available, just like many other publically available discount codes for Avis, Hertz, Hilton, Marriott, and many other travel companies.

If Avis did not wish for the code to be used, then all Avis needed to do was change the code, often, and make the changed code known only to the parties which Avis wishes to use that code.

Obviously, Avis has a computer system, and they can track the usage of their own discount codes, and if they cannot do that, then that is Avis's problem, not Avis's customer's problem, is it? If it was a problem in Avis's eyes, then Avis could darn well do something about it, yet they have chosen not to, so what's the beef?

Exactly!!! Avis or anyone else with the state of the economy are most likely, just glad to have the business. If Avis was not able to make a profit at the negotiated AWD price, they would not offer it............

USirritated Mar 29, 2010 6:09 am


Originally Posted by JLewisinSyr (Post 13668573)
Public codes are one thing, but just because a code is disseminated to the public doesn't make it public. It would be like a credit card number being typed into a web forum by an exgirlfriend. Sure the code is now public, but it doesn't mean it should be used by the general public.

One thing is a public DISCOUNT CODE, or more properly a COUPON CODE, INTENDED to be used to discount car rental reservations by the renting public, while the other is an exclusive use CREDIT CARD, to be used exclusively by the party whose name is on the card, and by no other! To compare those two NUMBERS is like comparing ORANGES and BASKETBALLS, sure, they are both round, and both orange, but their uses are totally dissimilar! (NOTE - A discount code, or AWD number is a discount available to a group, association, company, etc. and issued by Avis to that group, association, company, etc. for continuing usage, and is not supposed to be public or shared, but a COUPON CODE is a coupon, usually beginning with "MU" and for public use, sometimes in conjunction with certain AWD numbers, and sometimes not. If Avis does not wish for a COUPON to be diseminated, then all Avis needs to do is restrict its use in one fashion or another, either by date, or type of usage, or by identification, or any other method that it sees fit, and if Avis does not, then such COUPON code, if accepted into the Avis reservation computer for that reservation, is FAIR GAME!)


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 13668582)
Just because you find a MS Office Professional product code in a Warez forum doesn't mean that you would be using a legal software product.

But depending on what the code is and how it is published it might be public. Or might not be. Only Avis can tell.

An MS Office Professional Product Code, or any Professional Product Code is for the exclusive use of the person who purchased that SOFTWARE LICENSE, and there are all sorts of disclosures which come with that code, both "in the box/packaging" and when the software is loaded/registered. However, an Avis COUPON CODE is totally different, because there are no usage licences involved, and very possibly no disclosures related specifically to that coupon either either (except restrictions on usage, which would preclude it being used in certain types of reservations anyway), so if that COUPON CODE is not meant to be public, then AVIS needs to restrict or change it in some way so as to make it unavailable to the public, and Avis can do that through monitoring on Avis's own computer system. If Avis does not choose to do that, then that would be the choice of Avis, and it would have no impact on anyone else.


Originally Posted by spineangel (Post 13668583)
Exactly!!! Avis or anyone else with the state of the economy are most likely, just glad to have the business. If Avis was not able to make a profit at the negotiated AWD price, they would not offer it............

As noted above, AWD is a DISCOUNT CODE, not a coupon code. AWD stands for AVIS WORLDWIDE DISCOUNT, and is the standard/permanent discount numbers offered to certain groups, associations, companies, etc., such as AAA, or Delta Airlines, or the National Association of Realtors, and are totally different from COUPON CODES which usually begin with "MU," and are generally temporary in nature, such as must be used on rentals beginning before March 31, 2010.

spineangel Mar 29, 2010 12:33 pm

If anyone has a problem using an AWD code, very simple: you dont have to.....

But why bash those of us that want to be smart about taking advantage and using the system???? Some of us are on a travel expense budget, and are private consultants that expense all travel related expenses to companies we are doing work for.

Hertz4me Mar 29, 2010 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by spineangel (Post 13671022)
If anyone has a problem using an AWD code, very simple: you dont have to.....

But why bash those of us that want to be smart about taking advantage and using the system???? Some of us are on a travel expense budget, and are private consultants that expense all travel related expenses to companies we are doing work for.


its called FRAUD, theres only one place that i know of where people like you belong :p


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