Avis Discount Code k444404
 

I just used Avis Discount Code k444404 for a car rental in spain which gave me a ridiculously deep discount! What does this discount code represent and will I need to provide some sort of ID for it when I pick up the car? Anyone?

Again, Google has a bunch of results on this. As with all codes, if you don't know who it's intended for (and you're not part of that group) using it is fraud and can lead to issues when renting, both this time and all future rentals.

And even more so if you're ever in an accident when using a contract code you're not eligible for...talk about severe issues with insurance.

See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avis/...ems-using.html

I've used it many times over the years and never had an issue, although some are reporting problems with it lately. If it is such a great price just go for it with a backup reservation at another company just in case.

Why use a code you are CLEARLY not eligible for and then circumvent the problem by overbooking!

WHY???? So you can drive a nicer car for a lower cost..... I never overbook, never been a reason to.

It's called ETHICS, using a code you're not eligible for is stealing, simple as that.

I disagree totally! If the OP made the code up to just try it on a goof and it worked, then she is stealing. However, if the code is published in various places around the Internet, then the code is publically available, just like many other publically available discount codes for Avis, Hertz, Hilton, Marriott, and many other travel companies.

If Avis did not wish for the code to be used, then all Avis needed to do was change the code, often, and make the changed code known only to the parties which Avis wishes to use that code.

Obviously, Avis has a computer system, and they can track the usage of their own discount codes, and if they cannot do that, then that is Avis's problem, not Avis's customer's problem, is it? If it was a problem in Avis's eyes, then Avis could darn well do something about it, yet they have chosen not to, so what's the beef?

Public codes are one thing, but just because a code is disseminated to the public doesn't make it public. It would be like a credit card number being typed into a web forum by an exgirlfriend. Sure the code is now public, but it doesn't mean it should be used by the general public.

Just because you find a MS Office Professional product code in a Warez forum doesn't mean that you would be using a legal software product.

But depending on what the code is and how it is published it might be public. Or might not be. Only Avis can tell.

Exactly!!! Avis or anyone else with the state of the economy are most likely, just glad to have the business. If Avis was not able to make a profit at the negotiated AWD price, they would not offer it............

One thing is a public DISCOUNT CODE, or more properly a COUPON CODE, INTENDED to be used to discount car rental reservations by the renting public, while the other is an exclusive use CREDIT CARD, to be used exclusively by the party whose name is on the card, and by no other! To compare those two NUMBERS is like comparing ORANGES and BASKETBALLS, sure, they are both round, and both orange, but their uses are totally dissimilar! (NOTE - A discount code, or AWD number is a discount available to a group, association, company, etc. and issued by Avis to that group, association, company, etc. for continuing usage, and is not supposed to be public or shared, but a COUPON CODE is a coupon, usually beginning with "MU" and for public use, sometimes in conjunction with certain AWD numbers, and sometimes not. If Avis does not wish for a COUPON to be diseminated, then all Avis needs to do is restrict its use in one fashion or another, either by date, or type of usage, or by identification, or any other method that it sees fit, and if Avis does not, then such COUPON code, if accepted into the Avis reservation computer for that reservation, is FAIR GAME!)

An MS Office Professional Product Code, or any Professional Product Code is for the exclusive use of the person who purchased that SOFTWARE LICENSE, and there are all sorts of disclosures which come with that code, both "in the box/packaging" and when the software is loaded/registered. However, an Avis COUPON CODE is totally different, because there are no usage licences involved, and very possibly no disclosures related specifically to that coupon either either (except restrictions on usage, which would preclude it being used in certain types of reservations anyway), so if that COUPON CODE is not meant to be public, then AVIS needs to restrict or change it in some way so as to make it unavailable to the public, and Avis can do that through monitoring on Avis's own computer system. If Avis does not choose to do that, then that would be the choice of Avis, and it would have no impact on anyone else.

As noted above, AWD is a DISCOUNT CODE, not a coupon code. AWD stands for AVIS WORLDWIDE DISCOUNT, and is the standard/permanent discount numbers offered to certain groups, associations, companies, etc., such as AAA, or Delta Airlines, or the National Association of Realtors, and are totally different from COUPON CODES which usually begin with "MU," and are generally temporary in nature, such as must be used on rentals beginning before March 31, 2010.

If anyone has a problem using an AWD code, very simple: you dont have to.....

But why bash those of us that want to be smart about taking advantage and using the system???? Some of us are on a travel expense budget, and are private consultants that expense all travel related expenses to companies we are doing work for.

its called FRAUD, theres only one place that i know of where people like you belong :p

The guy in the thread above experienced some strange energy charges when using this code. Seems a bit weird.

Are you hertz4me or avis4me? Stay on your own site mole

Just to clarify, FOR all readers, and FROM both of you who have posted here, do you know the differences between AWD NUMBERS, which are ALWAYS RESTRICTED to specific users, and COUPON CODES, which are seldom restricted to specific users, but which are sometimes restricted to certain types of rentals by not being allowed to be input by the Avis reservation system. So, do you know the difference?

BOTTOM LINE, there is NO FRAUD to using COUPON CODES!

To say it is fraud to be using COUPON CODES is like saying it is fraud to using coupons at Safeway! Bottom line, if the Safeway cashier accepts the coupon, there is no fraud! If the Safeway cashier believes the coupon is not valid for the item(s) purchased, the cashier is free to not accept the coupon. It is the same for Avis! If the Avis rez computer accepts the code for the rez, then it is valid, and if the Avis rez computer does not accept inputting the code, then it is not valid. Either way, there is NO fraud! Get a grip please!

Could not of said it better...... We be singing from the same hymn book...

Thank you, very nice of you to say. Always nice to know that I am not marching to the beat of my own drummer! :D

Confused, first you say a Discount Code is also better known as a coupon code and then contradict yourself (in the same post) that AWD is a Discount Code, not a coupon code. So which is it?

The K number in question is a AWD discount code, not a coupon code, like you said coupon code codes come with different abilities, and I agree anyone should be able to use them, but again, we are not questioning a coupon code.

If anyone has a problem using an AWD code, very simple: you dont have to.....

Why, because ultimately it is fraud and fraud effects everyone. No one has any issues with using a legitimate coupon, I don't think anyone said anything even remotely questioning. Rather this is about people using an AWD Discount Code that is assigned to a corporation that may or may not be publicly available. One should take reasonable guidance in using an unknown code, going the extra mile to some degree to ensure it is public. It is well known that the code in question in this thread is not public it is intended for paid customers of the organization and their employees.

To be honest, I don't know how USIrritated even got on the subject of Coupon Codes, this thread was clearly about utilizing an AWD Discount code that a general person would not be eligible for.

My company uses one master MS product code which is for the exclusive use within our organisation. Avis has also given us an specific AWD which is for the exclusive use of our employees.
Same with K444404 which was given to Netjet user (?) by Avis. If this is the case then using this code unauthorised is indeed fraud.
The situation is different if it is a publicly available code for Tourist Offices etc.
You say that if this AWD is not meant to be public then Avis needs to make it unavailable to the public. But AFAIK Avis has not made this AWD available to the public.

Agreed!

Maybe this post will cause our resident fraudsters to take pause:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/13531334-post35.html

I always use L149332 and get the same discount (or very close to the same discount as K444404). I have never had an issue in more than 5 years in the US, Canada, UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries and UAE.

What is the code for?

You want to really solve your problem totally easily and legally and legitimately? Become a member of ENTERTAINMENT, by buying an ENTERTAINMENT coupon book for the area you live in. Right now, they are offering all books at the discounted rate of $15 per book, which is 50% off.

What does that give you for Avis you ask? Well, the discount code for ENTERTAINMENT gives you 40% off on many, or maybe even most, Avis multiple day rentals at Avis corporate locations. I happen to be one of those people who is entitled to use the K444404 code, and I am also a member of ENTERTAINMENT, and I am renting an Avis car for a three day rental as we speak.

Believe it or not, the ENTERTAINMENT rate beat the K444404 code by more than $2 (in this instance) for the same rental period that I am on now, AND, I still got my Chairman's Club upgrade to a luxury car! My rate is only $66.15 (40% discount), plus taxes and fees, unlimited miles, Thursday to Sunday, at ATL, using the ENTERTAINMENT BOOK AWD code that I am entitled to use as a paying member of ENTERTAINMENT. If I would have used K444404, the rate would have been $68.36 (38% discount), and if I would have not used either rate, the best that I could have gotten would have been $93.71 (15% discounted, from the undiscounted rate of $110.25 at $36.75 per day), for a mid-size, with my Chairman's upgrade to luxury. 'Nuff said?

Of course, different locations, different dates, and different lengths of rental will change the factors, but still, the numbers are striking! As always, YMMV!

Im glad some of you can afford to have "ethics".

My opinion is that car rental agencies charge inflated prices because they can, especialy on weekdays. They take advantage of business travelers. In this economy I cant afford $50-60 a day. So your damn right if by using a code I can drop it to $25-30 a day, Im going to do it.

Some of you want to call it fraud, you go right ahead and feel righteous. I'll just feel that I did my homework and have a few more $ in my pocket.

Another EXCELLENT post. Exact same thing goes for hotels..... Use the codes if you got em.......

What you say about car rental companies is incorrect, since car rental companies, by and large are unprofitable, and have been for many years. Of the three main "wings" of the travel industry, airlines, hotels, and car rentals, only the hotel business is consistently profitable. Airlines have not been consistently profitable since deregulation (1978), and car rentals have not been consistently profitable for over a decade, due mostly to the Internet. So, your arguement about taking advantage of business travelers is a weak argument. Do not get me wrong, I do not like paying higher prices for cars any more than the next guy, however, I like to do it for the right reasons, and not for my own personal justifications that have nothing to do with reality. Eventually, the airline business is going to consolidate further, out of necessity, and there will be less capacity, and prices will be higher, and the same will happen in car rentals, and we will all be paying higher prices there too, much higher I think. In the end, will it really be worth it having saved $7 per day using a discount we were not entitled to?

What would be your "right" reasons for paying more?????
You must have poor discount codes, as the ones I use save close to 40-60% per rental, much much more than $7.00.
Once the day comes you speak of, of which we will all be paying more, then so be it... until then I will continue to do what can do to get the best deal possible....

I just used $7 as an example. If you will read back on this thread, I am getting 40% off with the rental I am on now, legitimately.

However, using an AWD number which you are not entitled to is fraud! Using a coupon code which is publically available is totally legitimate. I am entitled to use the AWD number I am using, because I paid for my ENTERTAINMENT membership, but if I was not, then I could use K444404, since I am entitled to use that as a nominee of Marquis (now Net) Jets. Anyone else who uses those numbers without authorization is technically committing a crime, bottom line.

If that was technically a crime half the folks on this forum would be in jail.....
Take a look at the 1,859 posts on the top of this Avis forum titled "Avis discount codes". The majority of those posts are on AWD codes, not MU codes.
Guess we need to agree we dis-agree at this point...

Forgive the late reply, but just stumbling across this thread now.

There was one occasion where I did use a discount code. Upon checking in at the desk, I was asked to produce the voucher with that code on it, to "prove" I qualified for the discount.

Fortunately this was all legitimate, and was able to produce the discount coupon as requested by the agent.

Sounds like they don't request the coupons much any more?

Most discount codes actually don't require a coupon so there is not much they can request.

REALLY....
 

Please show me where it is says this under Under States Title Code 18???

And much more are just "one time" promo. If you have seen the deal too late, you can never have even just one discount code. What a pity. They should put the duration longer, right?